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Re: Labelling a "fill in the blank" form field

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From: David Farough
Date: Apr 30, 2018 8:01AM

You are aware that, these individual verbosity levels can be
configured.
Perhaps if you check the control description option within the advanced
verbosity settings you would hear the aria-describedby information.

It could be argued that most people would not be aware that this is
possible, but perhaps those who used this setting might be aware of its'
flexibility.

David Farough

Coordonnateur de l'accessibilité des applications, Services intégrés de
gestion des TI
Commission de la fonction publique du Canada / Gouvernement du Canada
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819-420-8408

Application Accessibility Co-ordinator, Corporate IT Management
Public Service Commission of Canada / Government of Canada
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>>> Isabel Holdsworth < <EMAIL REMOVED> > 07:57 AM Monday,
April 30, 2018 >>>
Yes, I'm using Jaws 2018 and Chrome 66.0.3359.139, the latest build as
of today. The labels work fine, but the last part of the question
(aria-describedby?) isn't spoken with Jaws.

On 30/04/2018, Mallory < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> Hi,
> is this with Chrome browser?
> We were using aria-labelledby on select inputs inside a table and
were
> hooking up the th's to them with aria-labelledby and while it was
fine as
> expected in IE and FF (and someone else claimed it worked in Edge as
well),
> in Chrome/chromium there was nothing to hear unless you did table
> navigation.
> I'd be interested to know if it differs per-browser since JAWS was
just
> barely a majority SR for students using our stuff; not working means
it
> needs to be revisited!
>
> Though very recently Steve Faulkner had tested our test page (with
the
> tables and selects) and it worked with the latest-latest JAWS and
could no
> longer reproduce.
>
> cheers,
> _mallory
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018, at 12:59 PM, Isabel Holdsworth wrote:
>> Hi Mallory,
>>
>> Thanks for these great examples.
>>
>> Unfortunately, using JAWS 2018 with advanced user verbosity, I
can't
>> get the value of aria-describedby on any field. So this solution is
>> close but not perfect for our needs.
>>
>> My solution of combining three labels, the middle of which is a
hidden
>> label that says "[fill in the blank]" seems to work well.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>> On 27/04/2018, Clayton Silva < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>> > Any thoughts on how to work with fill in the blank when HTML and
>> > question
>> > rewriting/reordering are not options?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I am specifically thinking about cases where the fill-in part is
not
>> > necessarily meant to receive an answer, but rather where the
whole
>> > question
>> > is an example and where the technology might be Word or PDF--like
either
>> > an
>> > electronic version of a print publication or a public-facing draft
of a
>> > print publication.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Some thoughts:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > · using a pre-defined symbol placeholder
>> >
>> > · using an inline/in-order image of a blank line with
"fill in
>> > the
>> > blank" as alternative text
>> >
>> > · using words in brackets like {blank} or {fill in the
blank}.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > All of these have drawbacks.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Clayton Silva
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >