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Re: Labelling a "fill in the blank" form field

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From: Jonathan Cohn
Date: Apr 30, 2018 11:08AM

Hello,

The aria-describedby field is only read with JAWS when actual focus (not
virtual focus) is on the field. So, it should be read after the label when
you switch from virtual cursor mode to forms mode either automatically or
by pressing space when the virtual cursor is on the field.



On 30 April 2018 at 07:06, Mallory < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> Hi,
> is this with Chrome browser?
> We were using aria-labelledby on select inputs inside a table and were
> hooking up the th's to them with aria-labelledby and while it was fine as
> expected in IE and FF (and someone else claimed it worked in Edge as well),
> in Chrome/chromium there was nothing to hear unless you did table
> navigation.
> I'd be interested to know if it differs per-browser since JAWS was just
> barely a majority SR for students using our stuff; not working means it
> needs to be revisited!
>
> Though very recently Steve Faulkner had tested our test page (with the
> tables and selects) and it worked with the latest-latest JAWS and could no
> longer reproduce.
>
> cheers,
> _mallory
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018, at 12:59 PM, Isabel Holdsworth wrote:
> > Hi Mallory,
> >
> > Thanks for these great examples.
> >
> > Unfortunately, using JAWS 2018 with advanced user verbosity, I can't
> > get the value of aria-describedby on any field. So this solution is
> > close but not perfect for our needs.
> >
> > My solution of combining three labels, the middle of which is a hidden
> > label that says "[fill in the blank]" seems to work well.
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > On 27/04/2018, Clayton Silva < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> > > Any thoughts on how to work with fill in the blank when HTML and
> question
> > > rewriting/reordering are not options?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I am specifically thinking about cases where the fill-in part is not
> > > necessarily meant to receive an answer, but rather where the whole
> question
> > > is an example and where the technology might be Word or PDF--like
> either an
> > > electronic version of a print publication or a public-facing draft of a
> > > print publication.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Some thoughts:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > · using a pre-defined symbol placeholder
> > >
> > > · using an inline/in-order image of a blank line with "fill in
> the
> > > blank" as alternative text
> > >
> > > · using words in brackets like {blank} or {fill in the blank}.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > All of these have drawbacks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Clayton Silva
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >