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Re: Acrobat Accessibility Check vs. PAC 3.0?

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From: Philip Kiff
Date: Jul 31, 2018 7:25AM

Great! Thanks!


On 2018-07-31 9:20 AM, Karlen Communications wrote:
> CommonLook Validator is a separate product from the CommonLook Global Access tool. Validator is part of the paid for tool that CommonLook has pulled out and offers free as a stand alone checker.
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> If you follow the link to get the free trial, you go to a webpage where you need to enter your name and e-mail address.
> https://commonlook.com/accessibility-software/commonlook-pdf-validator/commonlook-pdf-validator-request-a-download/
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> You are agreeing to let them use your information by filling in the form. The paragraph about this is just after the information you enter. I just walked through the process.
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> I know the language on the site is confusing given that they do have Validator as part of the for purchase CommonLook Global Access, but I didn't see anything on the page that would indicate that at some point you have to paid for Validator. I've had my copy of it since they released it as a stand-alone tool.
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> Cheers, Karen
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On Behalf Of Philip Kiff
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 9:10 AM
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> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Acrobat Accessibility Check vs. PAC 3.0?
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> Alan, I've seen folks mention the CommonLook Validator, but their website doesn't make it clear that it is intended for free use, they tell you to contact them for a "free trial" version:
> https://commonlook.com/accessibility-software/commonlook-pdf-validator/
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> Does their license allow ongoing use without purchasing the product?
>
> Phil.
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> On 2018-07-31 8:51 AM, Alan Zaitchik wrote:
>> Bevi,
>> I have found that the free CommonLook Validator plugin finds a lot
>> more issues that Acrobat's Accessibility Checker. (And you can select the standards you're checking against.) Even allowing for fact that some reported failures may be false positives, is there a reason not to start with Validator?
>> (I have no experience with PAC 3.0.)
>> A
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>>> On Jul 30, 2018, at 6:59 PM, < <EMAIL REMOVED> > < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
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>>> We find that no one tool finds everything.
>>> We recommend that our clients run the Acrobat checker first, correct
>>> the errors it finds, and then run PAC3.
>>> Acrobat does not find all errors...not even close!
>>> Wish it did a better job, though.
>>>
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>>> From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On Behalf
>>> Of Tomlins Diane
>>> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 3:40 PM
>>> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>>> Subject: [WebAIM] Acrobat Accessibility Check vs. PAC 3.0?
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> Looking for some feedback on these 2 tools. We have a vendor that is
>>> telling us NOT to use Acrobat's A11y check tool, and to instead use
>>> PAC 3.0. In house, we've been using Acrobat since we don't yet have
>>> an Enterprise solution for PDFs.
>>>
>>> The vendor states that PAC is the industry standard and "Acrobat
>>> should not be used for a checker - That is the reason they were
>>> getting so many errors when in fact it was passing when run through the PAC site."
>>>
>>> So, what might be the reason for what they think are marked
>>> differences between what PAC reports as pass/fail/errors vs. Acrobat
>>> ? Is it better to use them in tandem? I'm not crazy about a vendor
>>> admonishing us to only use the tool THEY use. I have reviewed PDF's they send back to us as 'passed'
>>> and the document will have failures in Acrobat.
>>>
>>> The other wrinkle with PAC is it only works on Windows, and we a
>>> growing contingent of folks on Macs.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Diane R Tomlins
>>> HCA IT&S | Digital Media
>>> Accessibility SME
>>>
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