E-mail List Archives
Re: Deque AXE plugin
From: Sean Murphy
Date: Oct 26, 2018 8:51PM
- Next message: Birkir R. Gunnarsson: "Re: accessible combo boxes and correct behaviour"
- Previous message: Steve Faulkner: "Re: Deque AXE plugin"
- Next message in Thread: None
- Previous message in Thread: Steve Faulkner: "Re: Deque AXE plugin"
- View all messages in this Thread
Thanks for information a lot of the other tools as I require the JSon output
My experience is the part
> On 27 Oct 2018, at 1:47 pm, Steve Faulkner < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>
> Note: the google lighthouse extension (which is also integrated into chrome
> dev tools)(https://developers.google.com/web/tools/lighthouse/) is open
> source (https://github.com/GoogleChrome/lighthouse) and includes aXecore,
> so you can modify lighthouse to suit your needs. But as it turns out it
> already provides a JSON export feature, so you can run the aXe rules and
> then output the results to JSON if desired.
> --
>
> Regards
>
> SteveF
>
>
>
>> On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 at 19:10, Marcy Sutton < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>>
>> The axe Chrome and Firefox plugins are not open source, and their license
>> does not allow them to be modified. Please refer to the terms of use:
>> https://www.deque.com/terms-of-use/axe-ext <
>> https://www.deque.com/terms-of-use/axe-ext>
>>
>> That said, we know many people desire a JSON export from the axe
>> extension. That feature isn't currently available with the free axe
>> plugins, but can be otherwise achieved with our open source axe-core and
>> axe-cli tools, as well as the WorldSpace Attest Devtools extension.
>>
>> Marcy Sutton | Developer Advocate
>> Deque Systems - Accessibility for Good
>> deque.com <http://deque.com/>
>>
>>> On Oct 26, 2018, at 11:00 AM, <EMAIL REMOVED>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Send WebAIM-Forum mailing list submissions to
>>> <EMAIL REMOVED>
>>>
>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>>> http://list.webaim.org/mailman/listinfo/webaim-forum
>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>>> <EMAIL REMOVED>
>>>
>>> You can reach the person managing the list at
>>> <EMAIL REMOVED>
>>>
>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>>> than "Re: Contents of WebAIM-Forum digest..."
>>> Today's Topics:
>>>
>>> 1. Deque AXE plugin ( <EMAIL REMOVED> )
>>> 2. accessible combo boxes and correct behaviour
>>> ( <EMAIL REMOVED> )
>>> 3. Re: [EXTERNAL] Navigation in application mode (Isabel Holdsworth)
>>> 4. Re: keeping jaws focus on a link after page load
>>> (Isabel Holdsworth)
>>> 5. Re: Another table sort question (Isabel Holdsworth)
>>> 6. Re: Deque AXE plugin (Steve Faulkner)
>>> 7. Re: Keyboard accessible HTML5 video player (Sudheer Babu)
>>> 8. Accessible Tree Navigation? (Henry, Michael (IntelliDyne))
>>> 9. GitHub and the Colour Contrast Analyzer latest version
>>> (Karlen Communications)
>>> 10. Re: Accessible Tree Navigation? (Birkir R. Gunnarsson)
>>> 11. Re: Another table sort question (Birkir R. Gunnarsson)
>>> 12. Re: [EXTERNAL] Navigation in application mode (glen walker)
>>> 13. Re: Accessible Tree Navigation? (Henry, Michael (IntelliDyne))
>>>
>>> From: < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>>> Subject: [WebAIM] Deque AXE plugin
>>> Date: October 25, 2018 at 11:43:51 PM PDT
>>> To: "'WebAIM Discussion List'" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>>>
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if you can get access to the source of AXE for Firefox
>> and
>>> Chrome? As I would like to see if I could make a modification to the
>> plugin.
>>> That is, to save the results to a JSON. Also with AXE Core API which you
>> can
>>> include in your source. Is it possible to create this as a code which you
>>> insert into a page which is already loaded and you don't have direct
>> access
>>> to the source?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sean
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>>> Subject: [WebAIM] accessible combo boxes and correct behaviour
>>> Date: October 25, 2018 at 11:54:16 PM PDT
>>> To: "'WebAIM Discussion List'" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>>>
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have seen many attempts of accessible combo boxes. What I have not seen
>>> and require verification. When a combo box is open and the keyboard user
>> is
>>> navigating the list of options. If they press escape. The prior value
>> should
>>> be maintained in the edit field and not overwritten with the currently
>>> selected value. All the combo boxes I have tested even the one from W3C
>> ARIA
>>> 1.1. best practise does what I have described when using Firefox 62. I
>> must
>>> admit I have not tested this with IE11 or Chrome.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For example: A combo box with 3 options. The edit field is blank. The
>> combo
>>> box is open by using the alt down arrow. The down arrow is moved to the
>> 2nd
>>> value called "2". The user presses escape and the value 2 is inserted
>> into
>>> the edit field rather than kept blank.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I understand Chrome has decided to change how combo boxes are open now.
>>> Instead of using alt down arrow or the down arrow. The enter key is
>> used. I
>>> believe this is in Chrome 70. Thoughts on this?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Isabel Holdsworth < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] [EXTERNAL] Navigation in application mode
>>> Date: October 26, 2018 at 12:21:09 AM PDT
>>> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>>>
>>>
>>> So if I wanted to interrogate an item within a grid using a
>>> screenreader, say for example to read a name or number character by
>>> character, how would I do that if the arrow keys are being passed to
>>> the application?
>>>
>>>> On 22/06/2018, Birkir R. Gunnarsson < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>>>> The
>>>> W3C spec never specifies exactly how a user agent should behave, but
>>>> strongly hints at it.
>>>> If NVDA does not switch into application mode inside a grid that's an
>>>> NVDA bug (unless the grid is marked as readonly).
>>>> This is why authors still use the application role on a grid, like we
>>>> did with the datepicker, but screen readers should address these
>>>> issues. I will go look at NVDA issues and file one if needed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/22/18, glen walker < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>>>>> Birkir, when you say that navigation to a grid should automatically
>>>>> switch
>>>>> to application/forms mode, are you saying a well-behaved screen reader
>>>>> should do that for you or that the web developer should be forcing it
>>>>> somehow?
>>>>>
>>>>> The spec for the grid role doesn't explicitly say a user agent should
>>>>> switch modes but it does say the author should manage the focus.
>>>>>
>>>>> When navigating to a grid, NVDA doesn't give an audible notification
>> that
>>>>> forms mode switched but JAWS does. Using the right arrow after
>> entering
>>>>> a
>>>>> grid, NVDA just reads character by character whereas JAWS will navigate
>>>>> to
>>>>> the next grid cell.
>>>>>
>>>>> So it sounds like JAWS handles the grid as you explained but NVDA does
>>>>> not.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 11:50 AM, Birkir R. Gunnarsson <
>>>>> <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would go with a grid
>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-practices-1.1/#grid
>>>>>> Once inside a grid the screen reader should automatically switch to
>>>>>> application/forms mode passing keys through to the webpage.
>>>>>> Then you can set up keyboard listeners to respond to the arrow key
>>>>>> presses.
>>>>>> For the JQuery script see this example of an accessible date picker:
>>>>>> https://dequeuniversity.com/library/aria/date-pickers/sf-date-picker
>>>>>> I workd with a developer to create this. As it was done in 2014 when
>>>>>> the grid role was poorly supported we used role="application" to force
>>>>>> the application mode, I believe that is no longer necessary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/22/18, Brandon Keith Biggs < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> Here is a good design for a calendar:
>>>>>>> http://whatsock.com/tsg/Coding%20Arena/ARIA%20Date%
>>>>>> 20Pickers/ARIA%20Date%20Picker%20(Basic)/demo.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you want to add in appointments, tell the user how many
>>>>>>> appointments
>>>>>>> there are each day and allow them to hit enter to see what is on that
>>>>>>> day
>>>>>>> and escape to exit back to the date picker.
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 6:23 AM Tim Harshbarger <
>>>>>>> <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Instead of using role="application", it would be better to use an
>>>>>>>> ARIA
>>>>>>>> design pattern that more closely matched the interaction.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The thing with role="application" is that, while it puts screen
>>>>>>>> reader
>>>>>>>> users in forms mode, it doesn't really tell us how to get around the
>>>>>>>> application. So using role="application" for one part of the page
>> is
>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> likely to inform screen reader users that pressing the up and down
>>>>>>>> arrow
>>>>>>>> keys will move from meeting to meeting and pressing the left and
>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>> arrow keys will move between days.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A listbox might work because a screen reader user will expect the up
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> down arrow keys to move up and down the list. Unfortunately, there
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>> an expectation that using the left and right arrow keys will do the
>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>> exact thing as using the up and down arrow keys. Users would not
>>>>>>>> expect
>>>>>>>> the left and right arrow keys to move between days. If you used a
>>>>>>>> listbox,
>>>>>>>> you likely would need to explicitly inform users of what the left
>> and
>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>> arrow keys do differently.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To me, this sounds more like a grid. In a grid, there would likely
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> better expectation that the up and down arrow keys would move within
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> day while the left and right arrow keys move between days.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
- Next message: Birkir R. Gunnarsson: "Re: accessible combo boxes and correct behaviour"
- Previous message: Steve Faulkner: "Re: Deque AXE plugin"
- Next message in Thread: None
- Previous message in Thread: Steve Faulkner: "Re: Deque AXE plugin"
- View all messages in this Thread