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RE: Visible skip navigation links, was: good example

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From: Karl Groves
Date: Nov 13, 2003 6:25AM

OK, so to clarify -
You're saying that those with motor impairments can use the skip link as a method to more quickly get to in-context links?
I've never thought of it that way, but it makes perfect sense.


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> Another group who rely on skipping navigation (but often don't use any
> special assistive technology) are those with a physical
> impairment that
> prevents them (permanently or temporarily due to an accident)
> from using a
> mouse. See the WebAIM video for an interview with one such person -
> http://www.webaim.org/info/asdvideo. A visible "skip" is very
> useful here.
> For another nice example, see Monash University's new home page -
> http://www.monash.edu.au/ - very unobtrusive.
>
> Andrew
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> Visible skip navigation links, was: good example
> 13/11/2003 05:57
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> Please respond to
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> "John Britsios"
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> Nice example. But the link contrast between background and
> foreground is
> not
> efficient.
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> Just an another accessibility thought.
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> John
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> To: "'Stephanie Sullivan'" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:24 PM
> Subject: RE: Visible skip navigation links, was: good example
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> > Stephanie,
> >
> > >>... If someone is tabbing through a page, when done properly, they
> work...
> > But why would >>a elderly person who is USING A MOUSE as
> you say need to
> > skip the navigation?? The >>navigation is not taking
> up >>the whole
> > page (it's generally at the top or on the >>side)...
> They must be
> > reading? And if they want to navigate to another page,
> they'll >>click
> a
> > link...
> >
> > Let's see...if a user has their font size set to say... 150
> to 200% in a
> > (Mozilla flavor browser, etc. - or using an ipaq or
> similar device)
> then
> > skipping the navigation controls (albeit few in the first
> example) would
> be
> > very helpful...
> >
> > >>In the above site on nihseniorhealth.gov (nice example on
> the top bar
> > btw), if I'm >>sighted and using a mouse, I clicked
> skip nav and it
> > doesn't do anything... Because >>there's nothing to skip really.
> There's
> > just a menu on that page...
> >
> > In the nihseniorhealth site, the skip link places focus on
> farther along
> in
> > the page, depending on screen size, resolution, and browser
> size you may
> or
> > may not see the focus change - for example:
> >
> >
http://nihseniorhealth.gov/alzheimersdisease/defined/01.html - selecting
the
> skip navigation link allows the user to bypass the global navigation
links
> at the top, as well as all the topical navigation links on the left hand
> side. Focus is placed on the subject topic, and subtopic... Tabbing then
> places focus on the actual content paragraph.
>
> >>It would, however, be helpful to screen readers or people who navigate
> with the keyboard.
>
> >>Am I missing something here?
>
> Not necessarily, my only point in the initial reply to your question was
> that it's important to consider as many scenarios as possible. As a
sighted
> user, YOU might not readily see (no pun intended) value in the use of
> visible links... But there are a lot of users who don't use computers the
> way you would - or have the abilities you do... Or here's a better
> question... Why not make them visible, they don't hurt or hinder access?
>
> HK
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