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Re: Search result table navigation - how to handle sporadic sub-level information?

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From: Jim Allan
Date: Jul 15, 2019 9:08AM


to clarify a bit (perhaps its the monday and not enough coffee)
moving with the 'h' key - moves from heading to heading in source code
order and announces each heading level.
screenreaders have the ability to jump to next specified heading level at
any time or move between only a specific heading levels (read only H2s)
I agree with David. Heading should meet your need, and be operable and
understandable to screen reader users. an explanatory sentence at the top
might be helpful, also.

Jim

On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 10:01 AM Andrews, David B (DEED) <
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> I think the headings method works well. As a screen reader user, I tend
> to use the h key in JAWS for headings, instead of specific heading levels.
> It is quick, and accounts for your situation well -- with both level 2 and
> level 3 headings.
>
> Dave
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> Subject: [WebAIM] Search result table navigation - how to handle sporadic
> sub-level information?
>
> I spent a large portion of the weekend trying to wrap my head around how
> to present information where, in some case, there is sub-level information.
> In most cases, each organisation has one publication, but some have more.
> I need to show the basic details, but without clutter.
> I quickly gave up with tables - fine if everything has a sub-result, but
> it was horrible with this data!
>
> Then I moved on to using a list layout with sub-level li items.
>
> https://gcc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffind.talking-news.info%2Ffind%2Fresults2%2Frotherham%2Flist&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cdavid.b.andrews%40state.mn.us%7C1152d3ab368b459af5fa08d70929e8eb%7Ceb14b04624c445198f26b89c2159828c%7C0%7C0%7C636987947916386542&amp;sdata=sPvkczLVvOD9%2BZVTKLX56w4saCxe2hvBCaG3v2sJ8O0%3D&amp;reserved=0
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> I forget where I originally saw this idea, but it was a navigation hazard,
> so I'm trying with using heading level navigation, with the h2 and h3 css
> styled to be inline.
> This second offering finds much more favours with testers, but I am unsure
> how screenreader users, using h2 to skip to the next result, would know
> whether it had child items with h3.
> As it is, each result is an h2, UNLESS the result is a parent
> organisation, in which case, the child results are then h3.
> This is a demo of this second method.
>
> https://gcc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffind.talking-news.info%2Ffind%2Fresults2%2Frotherham%2Fheadings&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cdavid.b.andrews%40state.mn.us%7C1152d3ab368b459af5fa08d70929e8eb%7Ceb14b04624c445198f26b89c2159828c%7C0%7C0%7C636987947916386542&amp;sdata=6d2NhmoouaHHWGs0iY23XzEPWkCz%2BAILM5u0GnjbRuQ%3D&amp;reserved=0
>
> So, lists, headings, or something entirely different?
>
> The links above are "live dev", I've got a small group of "normal VI end
> users" (ie: non techy experts) giving me feedback, and I'm tweaking as I go.
> Therefore, it might have changed by Tuesday! Don't use the search box, as
> that'll return results from the current (old) page.
>
> At the time of typing, both tests are passing the
>
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> and w3 validators.
>
> I'm using PureCSS for responsive grids. I really am trying to keep it
> simple, but I think both methods above collapse nicely on mobile viewports
> (at least, they do on my Android!)
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