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Re: [External Sender]Use of label without input

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From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Nov 15, 2019 8:04PM

If you are working for one organization and can set a bit of a
standard that is not barebones WCAG, you can require that the HTML
markup for the page at lbeast be semantically correct (use linting).
You can fail inappropriate use of a <label> element under that as an
internal quanlity control/standard (this is vaguely related to the
robust requirement of WCAG, since correct markup is compatible with
more user agents than incorrect markup, even if the incorrect use of
the markup does not specifically violate any other WCAG success
criterion).
This is a bit of a stretch, but if you want your content to be the
best, it should be semantically correct, something makers of
Javascript based frameworks have long long since forgotten.


On 11/15/19, Brian Lovely via WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> Patrick, the reason I have for sometimes being kind of a stickler about
> stuff, is because someone else will do something that is less than ideal,
> then when I call it out they say "I just copied what I saw on such-and-such
> page". These things just spread, and I want to make sure every dev has at
> least a working knowledge of accessibility best practices, including
> correct semantics. Who knows, in another context, something that is of
> negligible impact may be more problematic. If I could guarantee this was an
> isolated edge case I'd feel differently about it, but I've seen bad
> practice creep and don't want to encourage it.
>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 2:41 PM Patrick H. Lauke < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> wrote:
>
>> On 15/11/2019 18:19, Brian Lovely via WebAIM-Forum wrote:
>> > Is there any reason not to use a label as a simple container for text,
>> > without any related input? The best reason I can come up with is "pride
>> in
>> > your work", but that's likely not enough. Minus being associated with
>> > an
>> > input via the for attribute, a label element seems to be a non-semantic
>> > container like a div, span, or <p>.
>> >
>> > It bugs me that people do this, but I can't find any citable reason to
>> tell
>> > them to stop.
>>
>> Even if it bugs you though, is it causing any kind of issue? It's
>> probably a mild case of using a slightly inappropriate element, but not
>> enough to, for instance, fail under WCAG 2.1 SC 1.3.1. To my knowledge,
>> it has no adverse effect per se, so beyond the "what you're doing here
>> is pointless", not sure there's any major reason for letting it slide.
>>
>> P
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