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From: Skye
Date: May 9, 2020 9:35AM

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Hi Jared - thanks for the text update to AD section on WebAIM to
better reflect it as a need and less as an option.&nbsp; <br>
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I understand not referencing something that has not been introduced
but I don't understand why the &quot;important&quot; notation must be placed
mid-page just to justify an inaccurate phrasing - only captions and
transcripts are needed to meet the definition of being fully
accessible.&nbsp; An all-inclusive statement must be inaccurate no matter
where it is placed.&nbsp; If you want a notation after each section, you
could clarify that one does not replace the other so both are needed
without the guidance that a11y is fully met.&nbsp; Why not move the
&quot;important&quot; notation to after ADs to accurately notate that all
three (captions, transcripts, and audio descriptions) are required
for any multimedia to be considered fully accessible?&nbsp; <br>
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Thanks!<br>
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Skye<br>
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Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 11:44:55 -0600
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Can the captions page be corrected?

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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Hello all - when reviewing the page about captions, transcripts, and audio descriptions (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://webaim.org/techniques/captions">https://webaim.org/techniques/captions</a>), this &quot;important&quot; notation was displayed: In order to be fully accessible to the maximum number of users, web multimedia should include both synchronized captions AND a descriptive transcript.

However, per WCAG AA 2.0, multimedia is NOT FULLY ACCESSIBLE unless it also includes Audio/Video Descriptions (AD).
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Correct. The sentence you are referring to is within the section on
captions and transcripts. Audio descriptions are covered later in the
page. It wouldn't make sense to discuss the necessity of audio
descriptions before they have even been introduced.

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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Of course, there are some instances where ADs are not required like when the existing audio covers all of the key visual elements like someone reading all the text on the slide.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Yes, this is covered at length in the audio descriptions section of the article.

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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">And the AD section verbiage (&quot;not common&quot;, &quot;gaining popularity&quot;, etc.) on this page
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">These are accurate statements.

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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">seems to minimize its value and treats this as a nice-to-have by creating the perception that no one else is doing it.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">The intent is to make it clear that they aren't common, not that they
aren't important - many reading the article have likely never heard
the term &quot;audio description&quot; before.

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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">ADs are not merely &quot;helpful&quot; only if convenient to provide or something fashionable/popular.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Yes, the article stresses their importance - and encourages better
media production so as to avoid the need for audio description.

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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Is it time to update this page to accurately emphasize the need and required compliance of ADs?
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">I've added some additional content and made some tweaks to better
emphasize this.

Thanks,

Jared


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