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From: Greg Jellin
Date: Jun 10, 2020 10:01AM

Barbara,

I would add one thing to the great comments of others; Accessibility
should be part of your ongoing process. It isn't something can be
checked for once and you are all set. I recommend that you partner with
a consultant for a long term relationship. So, they would do your
initial eval, work with your developers to implement the suggestions,
then validate the fixes. Then what? You will be adding new content, new
features, new pages, etc. These will need to be evaluated as well.

Greg

On 6/10/2020 8:45 AM, Barbara wrote:
> thank you all - your views are really helpful and informative.
> Barbara
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 4:21 PM Colleen Gratzer < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> wrote:
>
>> I agree on all points, especially the need for anyone developing on the
>> site or adding content to it to get some training in accessibility (even
>> if it's just best practices), both for the website and for the documents
>> they create.
>>
>>
>> Colleen Gratzer
>> Website Accessibility Course
>> https://academy.creative-boost.com
>> Design Mentor and Host of the Design Domination podcast
>> http://creative-boost.com
>> Certified Branding Expert + Accessibility Specialist, Gratzer Graphics LLC
>> https://gratzergraphics.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/10/20 10:57 AM, England, Kristina wrote:
>>> Agreed with Tim. Honestly, if there's any way to get your developers
>> trained on both accessible code and manual testing as part of the initial
>> audit, that would be extremely beneficial over time. Otherwise you won't
>> have that knowledge going forward and any changes to your sites will need
>> to be outsourced for review, which will be both expensive and inefficient.
>>> Kristina England
>>> Senior Digital Experience and Accessibility Specialist
>>> University Information Technology Services
>>> UMass Office of the President
>>> 333 South Street, Shrewsbury, MA 01545
>>> 774-455-7874
>>>
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>>> >>> From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > on behalf of
>> Tim Harshbarger < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 10:39 AM
>>> To: 'WebAIM Discussion List' < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] value of re-testing after manual accessibility
>> audit
>>> [External Sender]
>>>
>>> Barbara,
>>>
>>> Before I share my opinions I just want to disclose that I do work for
>> Deque
>>> Systems which is a company that does accessibility assessments.
>>>
>>> In my personal opinion any good accessibility test should include both
>>> automated and manual testing. The automated testing helps reduce the work
>>> needed for manual testing. Manual testing catches those things automated
>>> testing can't. Automated testing shouldn't be a safety net for manual
>>> testing. Instead it should complement manual testing.
>>>
>>> Once your developers address the issues in the accessibility reports they
>>> receive, you likely will want to ensure the problems were actually fixed.
>>> If your developers have a way to validate their fixes, you may not need
>> help
>>> with retesting. However, if your developers lack the ability or you are
>>> trying to solve particularly challenging accessibility problems retesting
>>> can be invaluable.
>>>
>>> I hope that helps.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Tim
>>> Tim Harshbarger
>>> Senior Accessibility Consultant
>>> Deque Systems
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On Behalf Of
>>> Barbara
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 9:17 AM
>>> To: <EMAIL REMOVED>
>>> Subject: [WebAIM] value of re-testing after manual accessibility audit
>>>
>>> Hello, could anybody please help with some advice? I am looking into
>> third
>>> parties to do an accessibility audit of our sites. We are a charity and
>> we
>>> have multiple domains and sub-domains, so it can be potentially
>> expensive.
>>> The companies I contacted quoted us on different variables, one of which
>> is
>>> re-testing after the manual audit check for fixes or new problems
>> created by
>>> the fixes.
>>>
>>> Another variable is automated testing on top of the manual as a safety
>> net
>>> in case something has been missed by the manual one.
>>>
>>> How much value is there in re-testing? Is it risky to skip this step?
>>> Same for automated testing. How much value, if you have done a proper
>> manual
>>> one?
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>> Barbara
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