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From: Barbara
Date: Jun 10, 2020 9:45AM

thank you all - your views are really helpful and informative.
Barbara

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 4:21 PM Colleen Gratzer < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
wrote:

> I agree on all points, especially the need for anyone developing on the
> site or adding content to it to get some training in accessibility (even
> if it's just best practices), both for the website and for the documents
> they create.
>
>
> Colleen Gratzer
> Website Accessibility Course
> https://academy.creative-boost.com
> Design Mentor and Host of the Design Domination podcast
> http://creative-boost.com
> Certified Branding Expert + Accessibility Specialist, Gratzer Graphics LLC
> https://gratzergraphics.com
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>
>
> On 6/10/20 10:57 AM, England, Kristina wrote:
> > Agreed with Tim. Honestly, if there's any way to get your developers
> trained on both accessible code and manual testing as part of the initial
> audit, that would be extremely beneficial over time. Otherwise you won't
> have that knowledge going forward and any changes to your sites will need
> to be outsourced for review, which will be both expensive and inefficient.
> >
> > Kristina England
> > Senior Digital Experience and Accessibility Specialist
> > University Information Technology Services
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> > > > From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > on behalf of
> Tim Harshbarger < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 10:39 AM
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> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] value of re-testing after manual accessibility
> audit
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> > Barbara,
> >
> > Before I share my opinions I just want to disclose that I do work for
> Deque
> > Systems which is a company that does accessibility assessments.
> >
> > In my personal opinion any good accessibility test should include both
> > automated and manual testing. The automated testing helps reduce the work
> > needed for manual testing. Manual testing catches those things automated
> > testing can't. Automated testing shouldn't be a safety net for manual
> > testing. Instead it should complement manual testing.
> >
> > Once your developers address the issues in the accessibility reports they
> > receive, you likely will want to ensure the problems were actually fixed.
> > If your developers have a way to validate their fixes, you may not need
> help
> > with retesting. However, if your developers lack the ability or you are
> > trying to solve particularly challenging accessibility problems retesting
> > can be invaluable.
> >
> > I hope that helps.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Tim
> > Tim Harshbarger
> > Senior Accessibility Consultant
> > Deque Systems
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On Behalf Of
> > Barbara
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 9:17 AM
> > To: <EMAIL REMOVED>
> > Subject: [WebAIM] value of re-testing after manual accessibility audit
> >
> > Hello, could anybody please help with some advice? I am looking into
> third
> > parties to do an accessibility audit of our sites. We are a charity and
> we
> > have multiple domains and sub-domains, so it can be potentially
> expensive.
> >
> > The companies I contacted quoted us on different variables, one of which
> is
> > re-testing after the manual audit check for fixes or new problems
> created by
> > the fixes.
> >
> > Another variable is automated testing on top of the manual as a safety
> net
> > in case something has been missed by the manual one.
> >
> > How much value is there in re-testing? Is it risky to skip this step?
> > Same for automated testing. How much value, if you have done a proper
> manual
> > one?
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > Barbara
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