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Re: Wrap part of a word in <span>

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From: Tom Livingston
Date: Apr 26, 2021 12:53PM

I am leaning towards this:

<p title="Tom Livingston">TL</p>



p:hover,
p:focus{

&::before {
content: attr(title) " ";
}

}


On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 2:38 PM Tom Livingston < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>
> How about this:
>
> <p data-fullname="Tom Livingston">TL</p>
>
> p:hover,
> p:focus{
>
> &::before {
> content: attr(data-fullname) " ";
> }
>
> }
>
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 2:17 PM Laura Fathauer < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> >
> > The recommendation is " Don't use aria-label or aria-labelledby on any
> > other non-interactive content such as p, legend, li, or ul, because it
> > is ignored." Screen readers may or may not read the label when reading
> > the content.
> >
> > From the ARIA guide, section 2.10.
> >
> > Laura
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 2:10 PM Tom Livingston < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I was thinking something more along the lines of:
> > >
> > > <p aria-label="Tom Livingston">TL</p>
> > >
> > > p:hover,
> > > p:focus{
> > >
> > > &::before {
> > > content: attr(aria-label) " ";
> > > }
> > >
> > > }
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 10:34 AM Aditya via WebAIM-Forum
> > > < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > It has to be interactive element if you are adding onhover to it. Without this "non mouse" using people cannot get information.
> > > >
> > > > To avoid span you can use aria-label on the button. On hover and on focus you can display the last name.
> > > >
> > > > If you have the freedom to change experience, make it a toggle button that shows the last name on click rather than onhover. (Use aria-pressed) in that case.
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > > > On Apr 26, 2021, at 8:50 AM, Tom Livingston < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you Jonathan.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is an internal tool for my company's employees. We all know each
> > > > > other by initials (it's a company culture thing I guess) but in the
> > > > > event we have multiple people with the same initials, I wanted a way
> > > > > to clarify the name. There is also filtering based on groupings which
> > > > > would narrow it down further.
> > > > >
> > > > > My initial plan was to use focus-within for keyboard as well as hover.
> > > > >
> > > > > If anyone has any other thoughts on how to achieve this w/o spans I'd
> > > > > appreciate any ideas.
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 9:43 AM Jonathan Avila
> > > > > < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> iOS with VoiceOver splits up words in spans as two swipes unless they are in a link. However, if spans are used in a link while they now appear to be one swipe with VoiceOver it likely will pronounce them separately causing the name to not sound correct.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Also keep in mind for content you have to hover to expose that raises additional items related to WCAG SC 1.4.13 Content on hover. Also a proposed WCAG 2.2 criteria SC 3.2.7 Visible Controls may be applicable.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Jonathan
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On Behalf Of Tom Livingston
> > > > >> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 9:39 AM
> > > > >> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> > > > >> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Wrap part of a word in <span>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> OK, thanks.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> It's a calendar. I haven't quite worked all the kinks out yet, but there could be a number of initial-sets together in one calendar day container. Each one hoverable. They are not links so tab order would have to be set, correct?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 9:33 AM Steve Green < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Both is good. That will work fine as long as you use the "clip" technique to hide the text. It's a very common technique with a lot of applications.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> However, it might not be such a good idea if there are a lot of names on the page, because it would add a lot of tab stops.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Steve
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >>> From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On Behalf Of
> > > > >>> Tom Livingston
> > > > >>> Sent: 26 April 2021 14:30
> > > > >>> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> > > > >>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Wrap part of a word in <span>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> How about both? This is an intranet and a small captive audience, but I'd like to make sure it's right - right as possible.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I will test, thanks.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 9:20 AM John Hicks < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> as long as by hover you mean ... focus !
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> I reckon you'd best test it though, I find voiceover takes every
> > > > >>>> possible opportunity to surprise ... :)
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> Le lun. 26 avr. 2021 à 15:17, Tom Livingston < <EMAIL REMOVED> > a écrit :
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> OK, thank you Steve.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> I am working on a situation where I want to have a person's first
> > > > >>>>> and last initials expand to their full name on hover. My thought
> > > > >>>>> was to hide the rest of each in a span (not using display: none).
> > > > >>>>> Wanted to make sure that wasn't going to be a bad thing.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 9:12 AM Steve Green
> > > > >>>>> < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> No, it won't cause any issues unless you apply the "display:none"
> > > > >>>>>> style
> > > > >>>>> to the span or something like that.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Steve Green
> > > > >>>>>> Managing Director
> > > > >>>>>> Test Partners Ltd
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >>>>>> From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On
> > > > >>>>>> Behalf Of
> > > > >>>>> Tom Livingston
> > > > >>>>>> Sent: 26 April 2021 14:08
> > > > >>>>>> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> > > > >>>>>> Subject: [WebAIM] Wrap part of a word in <span>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Hello,
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Will wrapping part of a single word in a span cause AT issues
> > > > >>>>>> when being
> > > > >>>>> read aloud?
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Thanks for your help.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Tom Livingston | Senior Front End Developer | Media Logic |
> > > > >>>>>> ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | medialogic.com
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
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> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Tom Livingston | Senior Front End Developer | Media Logic |
> > > > >>>>> ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | medialogic.com
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> #663399
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> > > > >>> Tom Livingston | Senior Front End Developer | Media Logic |
> > > > >>> ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | medialogic.com
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> #663399
> > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
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> > > > >> --
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> > > > >> Tom Livingston | Senior Front End Developer | Media Logic |
> > > > >> ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | medialogic.com
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> > > > > Tom Livingston | Senior Front End Developer | Media Logic |
> > > > > ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | medialogic.com
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> > > Tom Livingston | Senior Front End Developer | Media Logic |
> > > ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | medialogic.com
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> Tom Livingston | Senior Front End Developer | Media Logic |
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Tom Livingston | Senior Front End Developer | Media Logic |
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