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From: Detlev Fischer
Date: Jan 4, 2023 3:19AM


That DnD does not have to be accessible for pointer users (mouse, touch)
may no longer be true if and when the draft WCAG Success Criterion 2.5.7
Dragging Movements https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG22/#dragging-movements
becomes a W3C recommendation. This specfically asks for an alternative
to DnD where the underlying function can be activated by single pointer
inputs - independent of the question whether an alternative for keyboard
operation exists. (When a keyboard-operable alternative such as a
dropdowen is also pointer operable, it may satisfy both 2.1.1 Keyboard
and 2.5.7 Dragging Movements).

Am 03.01.2023 um 20:14 schrieb Brian Lovely via WebAIM-Forum:
> As far as what Glen said:
>
> Not a specific answer but keep in mind that DnD does not necessarily
> have
> to be accessible. If DnD is used to perform an action, say, to reorder a
> list, then as long as there is a keyboard way to reorder that list, then
> you're ok. It's nice to make DnD accessible but it's not required.
>
> The problem I'm having is that this is already designed, so I have to come
> up with a solution that doesn't look any different. There aren't any
> up/down buttons in the design, so I'm trying for an accessible drag and
> drop solution.
>
> On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 2:10 PM glen walker < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>
>> Not a specific answer but keep in mind that DnD does not necessarily have
>> to be accessible. If DnD is used to perform an action, say, to reorder a
>> list, then as long as there is a keyboard way to reorder that list, then
>> you're ok. It's nice to make DnD accessible but it's not required.
>>
>> With Safari on iOS/iPad, if you have multiple websites open, the tabs in
>> the browser can be rearranged by dragging them. With VoiceOver on it says
>> they're a "tab" widget and then says "double tap and hold, then move left
>> or right to re-order." It actually works pretty well with VoiceOver. VO
>> will tell you the names of the other tabs as you move before or after them.
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>> List archives at
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>> >>
>

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