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Re: Non-existent Alt-text voiced in PDF

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From: Philip Kiff
Date: Mar 6, 2023 6:33AM

One more long shot:

I wonder if the non-decorative icons you're working with are SVG files
originally? It is possible to include alternative text directly in the
XML code that generates the actual SVG file. Such alternative text is
optional in the file format, and so some icons may have it while others
don't. And so maybe NVDA and JAWS are actually reading the alternative
text from the file, regardless of how else the image is tagged....Seems
unlikely, but worth checking.

Phil.

On 2023-03-05 20:39, Colleen Gratzer wrote:
> Thanks, Philip. I checked that too just in case.
>
> But I did notice that If I change the list to P tags in the PDF, then
> they voice fine. Now that is even stranger!
>
>
> On 3/5/23 7:56 PM, Philip Kiff wrote:
>> Mmm....that stumps me, too.
>>
>> Long shot: one thing you might check is that the alternative text /
>> actual text you hear in NVDA and JAWS is not being picked up from the
>> list item's Label tag or a bullet image nested inside the Label tag
>> (if either exist), or from the parent tag of the P tag inside the
>> list item - like the LBody tag?
>>
>> Phil.
>>
>> On 2023-03-05 11:44, Colleen Gratzer wrote:
>>> I'm hoping to get some insight on an issue I am having.
>>>
>>> I've got a page with a few different non-decorative icons. Some are
>>> inside P tags and some inside a list.
>>>
>>> They all have actual text applied, which was previously applied as
>>> Alt-text. The Alt-text was removed.
>>>
>>> I've confirmed in the tag properties in the PDF that there is no
>>> Alt-text.
>>>
>>> NVDA and JAWS voice only the actual text for the icons *inside P
>>> tags* but they read the actual text *and* previously applied
>>> Alt-text for the icons *inside the list. *
>>>
>>> I have renamed the files with every check in case Acrobat was
>>> caching the file content.
>>>
>>> I have restarted Windows. I have restarted Acrobat. I have tested
>>> this on 2 different computers.
>>>
>>> Again, I confirmed that there is no Alt-text set on these icons,
>>> even in the tag properties.
>>>
>>> I am stumped.
>>>
>>>
>>> Colleen Gratzer
>>> Creative Boost and Gratzer Graphics
>>> https://creative-boost.com
>>> https://gratzergraphics.com
>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > >