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Re: Is there any industry agreed viewport to verify 1.4.4: Resize Text

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From: Mohith BP
Date: Nov 21, 2023 5:41AM

Hi Steve,

Thank you for your response.

Thanks & Regards,
Mohith




On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 12:15 PM Steve Green < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
wrote:

> The physical size of the screen does not matter - it's the screen
> resolution that matters, and also the scaling factor in Display Settings.
>
> My view is that we should test using screen sizes that users will have.
> 1920x1080px seems reasonable. Higher resolution screens are available, but
> I don't think they are common. If you have a screen of that size, you can
> also test at any lower resolution.
>
> The scaling factor isn't so obvious. It only became an issue when laptops
> with physically small screens started to have high resolution. It's not an
> issue for me because I always use a large screen (usually 27"), but my
> inclination would be to always use a scaling factor of 100% regardless of
> screen size. And why would testing be done on tiny 14" screens? That's
> inefficient and more prone to error than a large screen. Testers (and
> everyone else) should insist on having the equipment they need to do the
> job properly and should not just accept what they are given.
>
> You obviously can't test at every possible browser window size, so I
> typically test thoroughly at a width of 1280px because I'm using that for
> Reflow. Then I look at how the layout changes as I increase the width to
> 1920px. I test at that width and maybe at intermediate widths if it looks
> like there might be issues.
>
> I also check what happens when the window width is reduced all the way
> down to then the mobile layout kicks in. This isn't a comprehensive test,
> but it's just to get an understanding of the design and see if anything
> nasty is likely.
>
> Steve Green
> Managing Director
> Test Partners Ltd
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WebAIM-Forum < <EMAIL REMOVED> > On Behalf Of
> Mohith BP
> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2023 6:10 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Is there any industry agreed viewport to verify
> 1.4.4: Resize Text
>
> Thank you Patrick for the response.
> However there will be non-standardized results when tested with laptops
> having different screen sizes.
> i.e., QA testing on a 14 inch display may get some issues which are
> documented and a dev using a bigger screen or at times external
> high-resolution monitors may not see those issues.
> Couple of organizations follow 1280 px as a standard for 1.4.4 assessment
> as well. I have come across a few organizations having different
> requirements for viewport something around 1366.
> I wanted to understand do we have any agreement as a community or any best
> practices for these.
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Mohith
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 10:12 PM Patrick H. Lauke < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> wrote:
>
> > On 16/11/2023 16:24, Mohith BP wrote:
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > Would like to know if there is any specific viewport generally
> > > agreed to verify 1.4.4: Resize Text.
> > > Different screen sizes and resolutions always produce different
> results.
> > > WCAG specifically mentions 320 px or 400% zoom at 1280 px for 1.4.10.
> > > However there is no mention of viewport requirement for 1.4.4.
> > >
> > > Generally many organizations follow a 1280 px viewport for both 1.4.4:
> > > Resize Text and Success Criterion 1.4.12 Text Spacing.
> > >
> > > Would like to know if there is any consensus on this.
> >
> > Normatively, 1.4.4 applies at all possible screen/viewport sizes. At
> > any of them, you must be able to resize text (whether in isolation, or
> > as part of resizing all content/zooming) to 200% its original size.
> >
> > P
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