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From: Jim Thatcher
Date: Dec 7, 2001 8:04AM


Here is a summary of table markup support that I posted on the 508 list. The
versions are all the current ones, HPR 3.02, Window-Eyes 4.11, JAWS 4.00.

Below is my current summary of the specialized
table markup support. Support means that by adding the indicated markup to
an otherwise not specially marked up table, you can get the assistive
technology to speak differently from its default behavior (which is item 1
below). For example, replace all of row two TD's with TH's in an otherwise
not specially marked up table and see if the AT now reads the second row
items as headings.

1. No special markup - row one and column one for headings: JFW,
Window-Eyes, HPR.
2. Scope attribute on either TH's or TD's - JFW and HPR.
3. Axis attribute on TH's or TD's - JFW.
4. Use TH for headings - HPR.
5. Headers attribute with id's specifying heading cells either TH or TD -
JFW and HPR.


Jim
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Accessibility Consulting
http://jimthatcher.com
512-306-0931

- -----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM forum [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]On Behalf Of
Mark Rew
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 5:44 AM
To: WebAIM forum
Subject: Re: Screen Reader Question


The scope attribute is recommended by the Access Board, but as of version
3.7
of Jaws it is not recognized. Thus, for Jaws I can only get the id
attribute
along with the headers attribute to work.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Sharon Daniels" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
To: "WebAIM forum" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: Screen Reader Question


> I haven't tried this but I thought that I read on the W3C site that using
> the SCOPE attribute would work.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> To: "WebAIM forum" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 3:42 PM
> Subject: Screen Reader Question
>
>
> >
> > Hi All!
> >
> > I am new to this list, so I'm sure you have already answered this
question
> > before. However, I would be very grateful if someone would help me out
on
> > this one. I am in charge of making the web applications in my company
> > accessible. Our products use a lot of data tables in its interface. I
> > have read a lot on the topic and all the books suggest putting header
and
> > ID tags to index the individual cell so while it is being read, the
screen
> > reader will tell you which row and column it is in.
> >
> > For example:
> >
> > <TABLE border="1"
> > summary="This table charts the number of cups
> > of coffee consumed by each senator, the type
> > of coffee (decaf or regular), and whether
> > taken with sugar.">
> > <CAPTION>Cups of coffee consumed by each senator</CAPTION>
> > <TR>
> > <TH id="t1">Name</TH>
> > <TH id="t2">Cups</TH>
> > <TH id="t3" abbr="Type">Type of Coffee</TH>
> > <TH id="t4">Sugar?</TH>
> > <TR>
> > <TD headers="t1">T. Sexton</TD>
> > <TD headers="t2">10</TD>
> > <TD headers="t3">Espresso</TD>
> > <TD headers="t4">No</TD>
> > <TR>
> > <TD headers="t1">J. Dinnen</TD>
> > <TD headers="t2">5</TD>
> > <TD headers="t3">Decaf</TD>
> > <TD headers="t4">Yes</TD>
> > </TABLE>
> >
> >
> > Some screen readers would read the following table like:
> > It would read the caption and summary (which JAWS does do), but then
would
> > read:
> > Name: T. Sexton, Cups: 10, Type: Expresso, Sugar: No
> > Name: J. Dinnen Cups: 5, Type: Decaf, Sugar: Yes
> >
> > JAWS (which I found out at a recent seminar has over 80% of the market
> > share would read it like:
> > Name Cups Type Sugar
> > T. Sexton, 10, Expresso, No
> > J. Dinnen, 5, Decaf, Yes
> >
> > JAWS apparently does not read the ID tags so it doesn't index the
> > individual data cell. I also checkedHomePage Reader and Outspoken and
they
> > read it the same as JAWS. Does anyone know if any of the screen readers
> > read the id tags?
> >
> > Any information would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Stacy Canaras
> > Sr. User Interface Engineer
> > Hyperion Solutions
> > 900 Long Ridge Road
> > Stamford, CT 06902
> > (203) 703-3323
> >
> >
> >
> >
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