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From: Andrew Kirkpatrick
Date: Dec 7, 2001 8:09AM


There was a discussion on the WAI-IG list about this, and JAWS does support
scope. The problem is that JAWS always announces the column and row headers
even if scope is used differently. I have attached an example, not to
present as a good way to code a table, but to demonstrate that JAWS does pay
attention to scope.

Andrew


On 12/7/01 6:44 AM, Mark Rew ( <EMAIL REMOVED> ) wrote:

> The scope attribute is recommended by the Access Board, but as of version
3.7
> of Jaws it is not recognized. Thus, for Jaws I can only get the id
attribute
> along with the headers attribute to work.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sharon Daniels" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> To: "WebAIM forum" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 4:13 PM
> Subject: Re: Screen Reader Question
>
>
>> I haven't tried this but I thought that I read on the W3C site that using
>> the SCOPE attribute would work.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> To: "WebAIM forum" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 3:42 PM
>> Subject: Screen Reader Question
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Hi All!
>>>
>>> I am new to this list, so I'm sure you have already answered this question
>>> before. However, I would be very grateful if someone would help me out on
>>> this one. I am in charge of making the web applications in my company
>>> accessible. Our products use a lot of data tables in its interface. I
>>> have read a lot on the topic and all the books suggest putting header and
>>> ID tags to index the individual cell so while it is being read, the screen
>>> reader will tell you which row and column it is in.
>>>
>>> For example:
>>>
>>> <TABLE border="1"
>>> summary="This table charts the number of cups
>>> of coffee consumed by each senator, the type
>>> of coffee (decaf or regular), and whether
>>> taken with sugar.">
>>> <CAPTION>Cups of coffee consumed by each senator</CAPTION>
>>> <TR>
>>> <TH id="t1">Name</TH>
>>> <TH id="t2">Cups</TH>
>>> <TH id="t3" abbr="Type">Type of Coffee</TH>
>>> <TH id="t4">Sugar?</TH>
>>> <TR>
>>> <TD headers="t1">T. Sexton</TD>
>>> <TD headers="t2">10</TD>
>>> <TD headers="t3">Espresso</TD>
>>> <TD headers="t4">No</TD>
>>> <TR>
>>> <TD headers="t1">J. Dinnen</TD>
>>> <TD headers="t2">5</TD>
>>> <TD headers="t3">Decaf</TD>
>>> <TD headers="t4">Yes</TD>
>>> </TABLE>
>>>
>>>
>>> Some screen readers would read the following table like:
>>> It would read the caption and summary (which JAWS does do), but then would
>>> read:
>>> Name: T. Sexton, Cups: 10, Type: Expresso, Sugar: No
>>> Name: J. Dinnen Cups: 5, Type: Decaf, Sugar: Yes
>>>
>>> JAWS (which I found out at a recent seminar has over 80% of the market
>>> share would read it like:
>>> Name Cups Type Sugar
>>> T. Sexton, 10, Expresso, No
>>> J. Dinnen, 5, Decaf, Yes
>>>
>>> JAWS apparently does not read the ID tags so it doesn't index the
>>> individual data cell. I also checkedHomePage Reader and Outspoken and they
>>> read it the same as JAWS. Does anyone know if any of the screen readers
>>> read the id tags?
>>>
>>> Any information would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Stacy Canaras
>>> Sr. User Interface Engineer
>>> Hyperion Solutions
>>> 900 Long Ridge Road
>>> Stamford, CT 06902
>>> (203) 703-3323
>>>
>>>
>>>
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