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From: Al Sparber
Date: Jul 28, 2005 10:10PM


From: "Terrence Wood" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible popup menus


> Al, your menu system doesn't show the sub-menu items, and leaves
> visual artefacts on the screen which obscures content when tabbing
> backwards through the list.
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> There is nothing obsessive or subject about that.

There are no artifacts in any of our test browsers. If you are seeing
artifacts, it is a browser bug. I see no artifacts in:

Firefox (Windows and Mac)
Opera (Windows and Mac)
IE (Windows and Mac)
Safari


> A menu system cannot be described as WAI priority three compliant
> until after it is implemented because at least one of the criteria
> is concerned with the link text (run your home page through a
> validator for an example of how to fail at priority one for this
> very reason).

This is a test case with null links.


> On a side note I personally found Ron's page quite usable with a
> keyboard.

I found it terribly confusing. I understand that people who are
regulars on this list have a certain predisposition. That is
understandable. But these are purely subjective issues. I can look at
Thatcher's page and see accessibility "features" that are only
accessible with JavaScript running.

My goal is not to get a seal of approval from an accessibility "guru".
My goal is to defend my product, and also to have some enjoyable
debates. Perhaps no one has pressed these kinds of issues before :-)

Al Sparber
PVII
http://www.projectseven.com

"Designing with CSS is sometimes like barreling down a crumbling
mountain road at 90 miles per hour secure in the knowledge that
repairs are scheduled for next Tuesday".





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> kind regards.
> On 29 Jul 2005, at 3:14 PM, Al Sparber wrote:
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>> You are joking, no doubt :-) I have to tell you, I got vertigo
>> trying to tab through your home page. I'm beginning to think this
>> is simply mass hypnosis :-) Thanks anyway, for your comments. We
>> will continue to proudly describe our menu system as meeting
>> Section 508 and WAI checkpoint 3 guidelines and all non-obsessive
>> subjective criteria, as well.
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