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From: Glenda Watson Hyatt
Date: Jul 28, 2005 10:11PM

Am I missing something?? I seem to need to tab eleven or twelve times to
get to Section 4. That seems excesive. Is there a shortcut I'm missing?

I'm finding this thread very useful as I would like to add drop down menus
to my own site - www.webaccessibility.biz - to make the navigation more
compact. But, as a person with limited hand function, I sometimes curse
dropdowns/flyouts when using my joystick because I end up on the wrong
submenu if my hand is shaky. I end up going somewhere where I didn't want
to go. So, I'm not convinced yet I want to do that to people on my site.

I'm open to ideas if someone can show me a truly accessible method.

Cheers,
Glenda

Glenda Watson Hyatt, Principal
Soaring Eagle Communications
Accessible websites. Accessible content. Accessible solutions.
www.webaccessibility.biz


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[mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]On Behalf Of Al Sparber
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 8:39 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible popup menus


http://www.projectseven.com/products/menusystems/pmm/webaim/

I'll answer your other points in a few moments.


Al From: "Terrence Wood" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible popup menus


> Hi Al, do you have the link for the other test case?
>
> 1. using the keyboard tabs through the entire menu, which kind of
> defeats the purpose of a dropdown menu, especially if used in the
> real world where the entire site map is included in the main
> navigation device. Perhaps hitting the spacebar to activate a
> submenu would help (despite increasing the learning curve?).
>
> 2. mouse users with poor mobility (eg parkinsons) find javascript
> dropdowns incredibly difficult to use.
>
> 3. some screen readers do not announce the end of a list, so the
> hierarchy of nested lists is lost. This recently came to my
> attention and I can't locate the source just now (anyone else like
> to shed some light?).
>
> 4. conform the menu does not work when tabbing through it backwards.
>
> kind regards
> Terrence Wood.
>
>
>
> On 29 Jul 2005, at 1:13 PM, Al Sparber wrote:
>
>> It's come to my attention that a Mr. Thatcher or some sort claims
>> that our menu system is not accessible. I would like to engage
>> this person in this forum to get to the truth, as it were. I've
>> prepared two test cases and would like this gentleman to explain
>> why the menus are not accessible.
>>
>> http://www.projectseven.com/products/menusystems/pmm/webaim/
>> vertical.htm
>>
>> Al Sparber
>> PVII
>> http://www.projectseven.com
>>
>> "Designing with CSS is sometimes like barreling down a crumbling
>> mountain road at 90 miles per hour secure in the knowledge that
>> repairs are scheduled for next Tuesday".
>>
>
>
>
>
>






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