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From: Karl Groves
Date: Mar 28, 2006 3:40PM


I just checked one of our sites that use FCKEditor in Lynx to see what
happened. Everything degraded well. Lemme explain why this is important:

One of the problems you're going to find when you're looking onto
browser-based WYSIWYG editors is that they ALL rely on client-side scripting
in order to generate the widgets and for the widgets themselves to input the
formatted text into the <textarea> it is using to POST into the form.
Naturally, any user-agent that does not cope well with client-side scripting
is *really* not going to do well with one of these things.

FCKEditor, when using Lynx, presented the <textarea> without any of the
WYSIWYG goodies. That's a good thing, IMO, because at least it didn't break
altogether. To me, that's a "pass". It might not be 100% equivalent access,
but I'm not even sure such a thing is possible in this case.

Karl L. Groves
User-Centered Design, Inc.
Office: 703-729-0998
Mobile: 443-889-8763
E-Mail: <EMAIL REMOVED>
Web: http://www.user-centereddesign.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: <EMAIL REMOVED>
> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Travis Roth
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 4:44 PM
> To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: [WebAIM] browser-based editor previously (no subject)
>
> Thanks Karl.
> I was thinking about the user interface itself. The code it
> outputs is a good point however for me to consider as well.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karl Groves [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 2:49 PM
> To: <EMAIL REMOVED> ; 'WebAIM Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: [WebAIM] (no subject)
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> I've used FCKEditor, which produces very clean markup if you set it up
> right. Right now I'm fighting with it to stop breaking the
> back button when
> the widget loads, but other wise it has been great. I do not,
> however, have
> any information on how accessibile the thing itself is to use.
>
> Karl L. Groves
> User-Centered Design, Inc.
> Office: 703-729-0998
> Mobile: 443-889-8763
> E-Mail: <EMAIL REMOVED>
> Web: http://www.user-centereddesign.com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: <EMAIL REMOVED>
> > [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of
> Travis Roth
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 3:45 PM
> > To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
> > Subject: [WebAIM] (no subject)
> >
> > Hi all,
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> > Are there any browser-based rich text editors (wysiwyg) such
> > as you find or creating and editting content in a CMS that
> > is accessible? Especially to a screen reader? I'd like to
> > find an example of a Section 508 or WCAG 1.0 compliant one,
> > however I don't know that one exists. Any suggestions on
> > this or what adaptations could be made to make a typical one
> > more accessible?
> > Thanks.
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