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Re: Which should come first - navigation OR content?

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From: Joshue O Connor
Date: Apr 25, 2006 9:40AM


Hi Becky,

IMO as long as the page has a "skip to content" link or similar,
is marked up well and can therefore be navigated easily by screen reader users, those who prefer keyboard navigation etc, I don't think it matters. Others on the list may feel differently but
I personally would not get too hung up on this issue as well marked up content
facilitates good navigation, in the sense that the *user* can then navigate your site easily.

Josh



Becky Tindle wrote:
> > As to the Stockholm Syndrome: You realise that a lot with Windows
> > Users. We are so used to random crashes, that we start defending the
> > system when people point that out to us. "Well, it happens, but that
> > is normal and there is nothing you can do".
>
> I suppose that is a kink in Human nature that we can accept that which
> is intolerable as "normal", in the absence of a viable alternative.
>
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>
> So are you now saying that it is bad practice to put navigation first -
> and that content should always come first? From the last few posts quite
> a few seem to be in agreement on this. If so - I'd like to hear your
> reasons as I remain undecided at the moment.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Becky
>
> */Joshue O Connor < <EMAIL REMOVED> >/* wrote:
>
> > As to the Stockholm Syndrome: You realise that a lot with Windows
> > Users. We are so used to random crashes, that we start defending the
> > system when people point that out to us. "Well, it happens, but that
> > is normal and there is nothing you can do".
>
> I suppose that is a kink in Human nature that we can accept that which
> is intolerable as "normal", in the absence of a viable alternative.
>
> Josh
>
>
> Christian Heilmann wrote:
> >>>Far too often in IT we seem to be suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.
> >>
> >>Christian, I think you are mixing up your syndromes ;)
> >>I thought Stockholm Syndrome relates to people who have been
> kidnapped
> >>and then come around to feel sympathy and support the
> >>kidnapper or their cause, a la Patty Hearst.
> >
> >
> > Yes, in this case a lot of developers pushed a lot of navigation in
> > the face of the user first for years and years and it is becoming a
> > standard. I remember SEO articles from 1999 talking about
> changing the
> > table order to show content first as a good idea. If we hadn't
> had the
> > navigation first and content later as a design pattern for years the
> > whole big discussion about skip links would've never happened.
> >
> > As to the Stockholm Syndrome: You realise that a lot with Windows
> > Users. We are so used to random crashes, that we start defending the
> > system when people point that out to us. "Well, it happens, but that
> > is normal and there is nothing you can do".
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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