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From: Bevi Chagnon
Date: Tue, Apr 29 2008 9:20AM
Subject: Heading 1 vs H1, etc.
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A client's web team is telling document specialists to use HTML tags H1, H2,
P, etc. instead of Heading 1, Heading 2, Normal in their MS Word docs, which
then travel to both InDesign and directly to the web.
Web team's reasoning: some screen readers recognize only HTML tags.
Q: Is the web team referring to older screen readers?
Q: Is this a valid strategy to take? If not, what would be?
Q: Do you know of any materials & resources about using style/tag names
across different applications that I can pass along to my client?
--Bevi Chagnon
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From: Randall Pope
Date: Tue, Apr 29 2008 9:50AM
Subject: Re: Heading 1 vs H1, etc.
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Hi,
Several of my DeafBlind friends who use JAWS, are not having problems using
the MS Word format that contain heading 1, heading 2 and so on. Nor there
is any problems using h1, h2 and so on.
However they despise any MS Word that has tables in it which include the MS
Word document format in html or as a regular document. They cannot read the
contents in the tables.
I'm not sure which version of JAWS they are using. Hope this helps.
Randy Pope
From: Alastair Campbell
Date: Tue, Apr 29 2008 11:30AM
Subject: Re: Heading 1 vs H1, etc.
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They are considered 'functionally identical' in the PDF accessibility
spec (http://alastairc.ac/2007/08/comparing-tagged-pdfs-from-office-and-acrobat/#comment-20280),
and I'm pretty sure the default 'styles' in Word are understood by
screen readers.
Obviously putting a <heading 1> tag in HTML isn't going to work, but
it should be fine in InDesign (which I assume is then producing
PDFs?).
Frankly, if they are using Word styles at all that's a good step in
the right direction.
-Alastair
From: Bevi Chagnon
Date: Tue, Apr 29 2008 1:00PM
Subject: Re: Heading 1 vs H1, etc.
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Alastair said...<< Frankly, if they are using Word styles at all that's a
good step in
the right direction. >>
I agree! I seem to spend quite a bit of my teaching time showing how to use
Word styles. One babystep at a time, eh?!
Thanks for your comments. They match my first reaction, too.
--Bevi
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From: Moore, Michael
Date: Wed, Apr 30 2008 6:50AM
Subject: Re: Heading 1 vs H1, etc.
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This works with at least JAWS 6 and above.
A quick way to reveal your heading structure in word without the need of
a screen reader is to auto generate a table of contents through MS Word.
You can undo after you look at the structure if you do not want the
table of contents included in the final document.
Mike
From: Bevi Chagnon
Date: Wed, Apr 30 2008 10:40AM
Subject: Re: Heading 1 vs H1, etc.
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Thanks for all the comments. They confirmed my opinion.
I've passed a summary as well as my suggestions to the client.
--Bevi
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