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From: Bryan Garaventa
Date: Mon, Nov 05 2012 8:40AM
Subject: Fw: Why is accessibility so hard?
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In case anyone else wants to chime in as well.
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Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 9:45 AM
Subject: Why is accessibility so hard?
> Hello,
>
> Google Vice President and Chief Internet Evangelist, Vint Cerf, asks
> "Why Is Accessibility So Hard?" and invites folks, including end-users
> with disabilities to weigh in. See the post and join the discussion at
> http://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2012/11/156585-why-is-accessibility-so-hard/fulltext
>
>
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From: GF Mueden
Date: Mon, Nov 05 2012 3:09PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Why is accessibility so hard?
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I would like to comment but the long piece was inaccessible to my
limited visual field and I did not find the appropriate place for feedback.
#1 More needs to be written from the point of view of the disabled.
For each disability there should be explained the fixes and
accommodations that are used. I have done so for those who still read
with their eyes but not well. "Advice for Publishers" is available as
an email attachment from = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = .
#2 Nothing should be published without showing the way to feedback,
not to a bewildering mess of a corporate website, but direct to the
person who created the problem. Telling Adobe, Google, or Microsoft
something is incredibly difficult.
Example: Windows 7 has an introduction to its accessibility
features called Ease of Access, that is itself inaccessible in that it
is not adjustable for bad eyes. Feedback should have been offered from
right there to the designer. Instant feedback, not lost in the forest.
#3 There is much pious talk but no real help from the IT industry.
Let them collect and analyze the feedback and then advocate appropriate
fixes and accommodations.
G F Mueden ===gm==
On 11/5/2012 10:40 AM, Bryan Garaventa wrote:
> In case anyone else wants to chime in as well.
>
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> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 9:45 AM
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From: Lucy Greco
Date: Mon, Nov 05 2012 3:35PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Why is accessibility so hard?
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you make a vary valid point we some times forget when we talk about
how all the at software works with this and with that many people
don't have at software and may never use it but they still have
problems that fixes for at can't address. Lucy
On 11/5/12, GF Mueden@ < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> I would like to comment but the long piece was inaccessible to my
> limited visual field and I did not find the appropriate place for feedback.
>
> #1 More needs to be written from the point of view of the disabled.
> For each disability there should be explained the fixes and
> accommodations that are used. I have done so for those who still read
> with their eyes but not well. "Advice for Publishers" is available as
> an email attachment from = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = .
>
> #2 Nothing should be published without showing the way to feedback,
> not to a bewildering mess of a corporate website, but direct to the
> person who created the problem. Telling Adobe, Google, or Microsoft
> something is incredibly difficult.
> Example: Windows 7 has an introduction to its accessibility
> features called Ease of Access, that is itself inaccessible in that it
> is not adjustable for bad eyes. Feedback should have been offered from
> right there to the designer. Instant feedback, not lost in the forest.
>
> #3 There is much pious talk but no real help from the IT industry.
> Let them collect and analyze the feedback and then advocate appropriate
> fixes and accommodations.
>
> G F Mueden ===gm==>
> On 11/5/2012 10:40 AM, Bryan Garaventa wrote:
>> In case anyone else wants to chime in as well.
>>
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>> To: < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 9:45 AM
>> Subject: Why is accessibility so hard?
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Lucia Greco
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University of California, Berkeley
(510) 289-6008
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu