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From: Howard Kramer
Date: Sun, Jun 09 2013 9:03PM
Subject: Is there a best player for embedded video
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My apologies if this is a previously discussed item. Is there an embedded
player that is considered the best for accessibility? I was looking at the
article on WebAIM on Accessible Media Players. Stand-alone media players -
particularly WMP and RealPlayer - seemed the most accessible, and
Quickplayer the most accessible of the embedded player, according to the
article. However, the article seems like it was written a few years ago.
Is this still the case?
Is the best practice considered to provided both embedded video along with
direct access to a media file you can play on the player of your choice?
Also, I noticed a player called Nomensa which promotes itself as an
accessible media player. Any feedback on this player?
Thanks,
Howard
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From: Léonie Watson
Date: Mon, Jun 10 2013 2:06AM
Subject: Re: Is there a best player for embedded video
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Howard Kramer wrote:
"Also, I noticed a player called Nomensa which promotes itself as an
accessible media player. Any feedback on this player?"
The company is Nomensa rather than the player (it's where I used to work).
The player is free and open source and available here:
http://www.github.com/nomensa/
It has three configurations: A config for playing locally stored files, a
config for playing YouTube content and a config for playing Vimeo content.
The UI is HTML/CSS/JavaScript/ARIA and can be customised. When I last looked
it was keyboard and screen reader friendly. Under the hood it uses different
APIs and/or engines, depending on the config.
I use it on a couple of sites if you'd like to see it in action...
http://tink.co.uk/2013/02/w3conf-2013-design-like-you-give-a-damn/
http://accesstalk.co.uk/podcast-15/
When I was at Nomensa it was a side project from the web dev team. I don't
know whether it's still under active development, but the team are usually
pretty responsive if you post a query via Github. As an open source project
help is always welcome for continuing its development.
Léonie.
From: Howard Kramer
Date: Mon, Jun 10 2013 8:45AM
Subject: Re: Is there a best player for embedded video
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Thanks Léonie.
-Howard
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 2:06 AM, Léonie Watson < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Howard Kramer wrote:
> "Also, I noticed a player called Nomensa which promotes itself as an
> accessible media player. Any feedback on this player?"
>
> The company is Nomensa rather than the player (it's where I used to work).
> The player is free and open source and available here:
> http://www.github.com/nomensa/
>
> It has three configurations: A config for playing locally stored files, a
> config for playing YouTube content and a config for playing Vimeo content.
>
> The UI is HTML/CSS/JavaScript/ARIA and can be customised. When I last
> looked
> it was keyboard and screen reader friendly. Under the hood it uses
> different
> APIs and/or engines, depending on the config.
>
> I use it on a couple of sites if you'd like to see it in action...
> http://tink.co.uk/2013/02/w3conf-2013-design-like-you-give-a-damn/
> http://accesstalk.co.uk/podcast-15/
>
> When I was at Nomensa it was a side project from the web dev team. I don't
> know whether it's still under active development, but the team are usually
> pretty responsive if you post a query via Github. As an open source project
> help is always welcome for continuing its development.
>
>
> Léonie.
>
From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Mon, Jun 10 2013 9:08AM
Subject: Re: Is there a best player for embedded video
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Hi
The Nomensa player, in my experience, was very good and accessible, cudos!
Speaking for myself as a screen reader user, I can't stand it when I
have to download the file and open in in WMP (for one thing that
player is not particularly accessible, at least one should not assume
so), so I definitely would always vote for being able to play the file
online. For one thing, one may be at a friend's computer (thanks
NVDA), which does not have the accessible set up/config for playing
media files locally.
Also, and recent experience confirms this, some users give up and find
a site inaccessible when they run into downloading issues, especially
when the file is large.
Being able to play the file and get a response within seconds is
important, this really applies to all users, I recently read a mobile
UI best practices article that emphasized fooling the user into
thinking the phone is super responsive by starting or confirming that
an action was successful, and then doing the rest behind the scenes.
I did see a Flashplayer from 6 degrees, that was pretty accessible as well.
If you go to
www.blindbargains.com
and locate some audio content (for instance the CSUN 2013 interviews),
this is the online player they use.
Again, I am not sure it offers something over and above the Nomensa
one, but if you wanted an alternative player to compare against, this
is one I know off (no affiliation, I don't even know who makes the
player).
Cheers
-B
On 6/10/13, Howard Kramer < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Thanks Léonie.
>
> -Howard
>
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 2:06 AM, Léonie Watson < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> Howard Kramer wrote:
>> "Also, I noticed a player called Nomensa which promotes itself as an
>> accessible media player. Any feedback on this player?"
>>
>> The company is Nomensa rather than the player (it's where I used to
>> work).
>> The player is free and open source and available here:
>> http://www.github.com/nomensa/
>>
>> It has three configurations: A config for playing locally stored files, a
>> config for playing YouTube content and a config for playing Vimeo
>> content.
>>
>> The UI is HTML/CSS/JavaScript/ARIA and can be customised. When I last
>> looked
>> it was keyboard and screen reader friendly. Under the hood it uses
>> different
>> APIs and/or engines, depending on the config.
>>
>> I use it on a couple of sites if you'd like to see it in action...
>> http://tink.co.uk/2013/02/w3conf-2013-design-like-you-give-a-damn/
>> http://accesstalk.co.uk/podcast-15/
>>
>> When I was at Nomensa it was a side project from the web dev team. I
>> don't
>> know whether it's still under active development, but the team are
>> usually
>> pretty responsive if you post a query via Github. As an open source
>> project
>> help is always welcome for continuing its development.
>>
>>
>> Léonie.
>>
From: Howard Kramer
Date: Mon, Jun 10 2013 9:15AM
Subject: Re: Is there a best player for embedded video
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Thanks Birkir. I hadn't thought about the various issues around downloading
a file vs. playing online. And thanks for the other tips - I'll check those
out.
-Howard
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Birkir R. Gunnarsson <
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hi
>
> The Nomensa player, in my experience, was very good and accessible, cudos!
> Speaking for myself as a screen reader user, I can't stand it when I
> have to download the file and open in in WMP (for one thing that
> player is not particularly accessible, at least one should not assume
> so), so I definitely would always vote for being able to play the file
> online. For one thing, one may be at a friend's computer (thanks
> NVDA), which does not have the accessible set up/config for playing
> media files locally.
> Also, and recent experience confirms this, some users give up and find
> a site inaccessible when they run into downloading issues, especially
> when the file is large.
> Being able to play the file and get a response within seconds is
> important, this really applies to all users, I recently read a mobile
> UI best practices article that emphasized fooling the user into
> thinking the phone is super responsive by starting or confirming that
> an action was successful, and then doing the rest behind the scenes.
>
> I did see a Flashplayer from 6 degrees, that was pretty accessible as well.
> If you go to
> www.blindbargains.com
> and locate some audio content (for instance the CSUN 2013 interviews),
> this is the online player they use.
> Again, I am not sure it offers something over and above the Nomensa
> one, but if you wanted an alternative player to compare against, this
> is one I know off (no affiliation, I don't even know who makes the
> player).
> Cheers
> -B
>
>
> On 6/10/13, Howard Kramer < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> > Thanks Léonie.
> >
> > -Howard
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 2:06 AM, Léonie Watson < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >
> >> Howard Kramer wrote:
> >> "Also, I noticed a player called Nomensa which promotes itself as an
> >> accessible media player. Any feedback on this player?"
> >>
> >> The company is Nomensa rather than the player (it's where I used to
> >> work).
> >> The player is free and open source and available here:
> >> http://www.github.com/nomensa/
> >>
> >> It has three configurations: A config for playing locally stored files,
> a
> >> config for playing YouTube content and a config for playing Vimeo
> >> content.
> >>
> >> The UI is HTML/CSS/JavaScript/ARIA and can be customised. When I last
> >> looked
> >> it was keyboard and screen reader friendly. Under the hood it uses
> >> different
> >> APIs and/or engines, depending on the config.
> >>
> >> I use it on a couple of sites if you'd like to see it in action...
> >> http://tink.co.uk/2013/02/w3conf-2013-design-like-you-give-a-damn/
> >> http://accesstalk.co.uk/podcast-15/
> >>
> >> When I was at Nomensa it was a side project from the web dev team. I
> >> don't
> >> know whether it's still under active development, but the team are
> >> usually
> >> pretty responsive if you post a query via Github. As an open source
> >> project
> >> help is always welcome for continuing its development.
> >>
> >>
> >> Léonie.
> >>