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From: Léonie Watson
Date: Wed, May 14 2014 9:02AM
Subject: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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Everyone,
To celebrate Global Accessibility Awareness Day, The Paciello Group will be
holding 24 one-hour webinars on all things accessibility. The sessions range
from beginner-to-advanced and are aimed at everyone from executives to web
developers.
Sessions start at Midnight, GMT, on May 15th. Our online schedule at
http://inclusivedesign24.org/ should do the automatic conversion for you. If
not, you can enter the time(s) at the following website and get the relevant
information for your timezone:
http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc
To join the meeting, go to
https://my.adobeconnect.com/id24/
Follow the event with the dual hashtags #ID24 #GAAD
Léonie.
----------------
If you have never attended an Adobe Connect meeting before:
Test your connection:
https://my.adobeconnect.com/common/help/en/support/meeting_test.htm
Get a quick overview: http://www.adobe.com/products/adobeconnect.html
--
@LeonieWatson Carpe diem
From: Greg Wocher
Date: Wed, May 14 2014 10:38AM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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Hello,
I am curious as to why you are using Adobe Connect? The college where I
attend my classes online uses this software and I have found it
extremely problematic to use. For instance in the chat pod I can not
read individual chat messages. It wants to read all of them at the same
time. I am also unable to reliably read anything in the attendee pod.
This is using JAWS or NVDA. Also this is with the adobe connect plug in
installed. This question is just out of curiosity because I would like
to be able to use adobe connect more proficiently.
Thanks,
Greg Wocher
Follow me on Twitter @GWocher
On 5/14/2014 11:02 AM, Léonie Watson wrote:
> Everyone,
>
>
>
> To celebrate Global Accessibility Awareness Day, The Paciello Group will be
> holding 24 one-hour webinars on all things accessibility. The sessions range
> from beginner-to-advanced and are aimed at everyone from executives to web
> developers.
>
>
>
> Sessions start at Midnight, GMT, on May 15th. Our online schedule at
> http://inclusivedesign24.org/ should do the automatic conversion for you. If
> not, you can enter the time(s) at the following website and get the relevant
> information for your timezone:
> http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc
>
>
>
> To join the meeting, go to
>
>
>
> https://my.adobeconnect.com/id24/
>
>
>
>
>
> Follow the event with the dual hashtags #ID24 #GAAD
>
>
>
> Léonie.
>
>
>
> ----------------
>
> If you have never attended an Adobe Connect meeting before:
>
>
>
> Test your connection:
> https://my.adobeconnect.com/common/help/en/support/meeting_test.htm
>
>
>
> Get a quick overview: http://www.adobe.com/products/adobeconnect.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
From: Weissenberger, Todd M
Date: Wed, May 14 2014 11:57AM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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This is great; I look forward to experiencing as much of this as I can.
Will the webinars be archived for those who cannot attend?
Todd
T.M. Weissenberger
Web Accessibility Coordinator
University of Iowa Information Technology Services
http://webaccess.its.uiowa.edu
From: Karl Groves
Date: Wed, May 14 2014 12:00PM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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Greg:
We decided to go with Adobe Connect for a couple of reasons:
First, the other major players in this space, WebEx and GoToMeeting/
GoToWebinar have very significant accessibility issues, the likes of which
are really problematic.
Adobe Connect has some issues of its own. One SR user mentioned a keyboard
trap in some pods, which require you to resort to work arounds in order to
get to other pods. Also, as you mentioned, the chat pod pretty much just
barfs out all the text all at once and without much "structure", so to
speak.
Elluminate, which I would have considered as an alternative, is now part of
Blackboard and, as far as I know, can't be used on its own anymore. Either
way my experience with Elluminate hasn't been recent enough to be
comfortable with using it.
The same goes for other options. There are other meeting products out
there, such as LucidMeetings, which have taken positive steps for
accessibility. I actually have a LucidMeetings account. Unfortunately,
LucidMeetings is far better suited for meetings than Webinars, and doesn't
have the robust VOIP capabilities of handling as many concurrent users as
Connect can.
Ultimately, despite its flaws, Adobe Connect was overall the better choice.
Both for accessibility and for applicability.
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Greg Wocher < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >wrote:
> Hello,
> I am curious as to why you are using Adobe Connect? The college where I
> attend my classes online uses this software and I have found it extremely
> problematic to use. For instance in the chat pod I can not read individual
> chat messages. It wants to read all of them at the same time. I am also
> unable to reliably read anything in the attendee pod. This is using JAWS or
> NVDA. Also this is with the adobe connect plug in installed. This
> question is just out of curiosity because I would like to be able to use
> adobe connect more proficiently.
>
> Thanks,
> Greg Wocher
>
> Follow me on Twitter @GWocher
>
>
> On 5/14/2014 11:02 AM, Léonie Watson wrote:
>
>> Everyone,
>>
>>
>> To celebrate Global Accessibility Awareness Day, The Paciello Group will
>> be
>> holding 24 one-hour webinars on all things accessibility. The sessions
>> range
>> from beginner-to-advanced and are aimed at everyone from executives to web
>> developers.
>>
>>
>> Sessions start at Midnight, GMT, on May 15th. Our online schedule at
>> http://inclusivedesign24.org/ should do the automatic conversion for
>> you. If
>> not, you can enter the time(s) at the following website and get the
>> relevant
>> information for your timezone:
>> http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc
>>
>>
>> To join the meeting, go to
>>
>>
>> https://my.adobeconnect.com/id24/
>>
>>
>>
>> Follow the event with the dual hashtags #ID24 #GAAD
>>
>>
>> Léonie.
>>
>>
>> ----------------
>>
>> If you have never attended an Adobe Connect meeting before:
>>
>>
>> Test your connection:
>> https://my.adobeconnect.com/common/help/en/support/meeting_test.htm
>>
>>
>> Get a quick overview: http://www.adobe.com/products/adobeconnect.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> > > >
--
Karl Groves
www.karlgroves.com
@karlgroves
http://www.linkedin.com/in/karlgroves
Phone: +1 410.541.6829
www.tenon.io
What is this thing and what does it do?
http://vimeo.com/84970341
http://lanyrd.com/profile/karlgroves/
From: Léonie Watson
Date: Wed, May 14 2014 1:05PM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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Todd Weissenberger wrote:
"Will the webinars be archived for those who cannot attend?"
We're working on that part. It's difficult to know what to do with 24 hours
of video footage until they can be hosted somewhere, but we're working hard
to find a solution... before 12am GMT of course!
Léonie
--
@LeonieWatson Carpe diem
From: Léonie Watson
Date: Wed, May 14 2014 1:07PM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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Greg Wocher wrote:
"I am curious as to why you are using Adobe Connect? The college where I
attend my classes online uses this software and I have found it extremely
problematic to use. For instance in the chat pod I can not read individual
chat messages. It wants to read all of them at the same time. I am also
unable to reliably read anything in the attendee pod.
This is using JAWS or NVDA. Also this is with the adobe connect plug in
installed. This question is just out of curiosity because I would like to
be able to use adobe connect more proficiently."
I haven't used it a great deal myself yet. I've found it reasonably
accessible with NVDA in Firefox, but haven't yet experienced a busy chat
session inside Connect.
If you've identified specific areas where Connect could be improved, it'd be
worth contacting Adobe and/or the vendors of the screen reader, to see if
there is a possible workaround/fix that can be found.
Léonie.
--
@LeonieWatson Carpe diem
From: Léonie Watson
Date: Wed, May 14 2014 1:08PM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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Karl Groves wrote:
"Adobe Connect has some issues of its own. One SR user mentioned a keyboard trap in some pods, which require you to resort to work arounds in order to get to other pods. Also, as you mentioned, the chat pod pretty much just barfs out all the text all at once and without much "structure", so to speak."
For any keyboard users reading this, you can extricate yourself from this by using Control f6 to cycle between the different pods, and Control space to move to the menubar at the top.
Léonie.
--
@LeonieWatson Carpe diem
From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Karl Groves
Sent: 14 May 2014 19:00
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Cc: Léonie Watson
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
Greg:
We decided to go with Adobe Connect for a couple of reasons:
First, the other major players in this space, WebEx and GoToMeeting/ GoToWebinar have very significant accessibility issues, the likes of which are really problematic.
Adobe Connect has some issues of its own. One SR user mentioned a keyboard trap in some pods, which require you to resort to work arounds in order to get to other pods. Also, as you mentioned, the chat pod pretty much just barfs out all the text all at once and without much "structure", so to speak.
Elluminate, which I would have considered as an alternative, is now part of Blackboard and, as far as I know, can't be used on its own anymore. Either way my experience with Elluminate hasn't been recent enough to be comfortable with using it.
The same goes for other options. There are other meeting products out there, such as LucidMeetings, which have taken positive steps for accessibility. I actually have a LucidMeetings account. Unfortunately, LucidMeetings is far better suited for meetings than Webinars, and doesn't have the robust VOIP capabilities of handling as many concurrent users as Connect can.
Ultimately, despite its flaws, Adobe Connect was overall the better choice. Both for accessibility and for applicability.
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Greg Wocher < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
Hello,
I am curious as to why you are using Adobe Connect? The college where I attend my classes online uses this software and I have found it extremely problematic to use. For instance in the chat pod I can not read individual chat messages. It wants to read all of them at the same time. I am also unable to reliably read anything in the attendee pod. This is using JAWS or NVDA. Also this is with the adobe connect plug in installed. This question is just out of curiosity because I would like to be able to use adobe connect more proficiently.
Thanks,
Greg Wocher
Follow me on Twitter @GWocher
On 5/14/2014 11:02 AM, Léonie Watson wrote:
Everyone,
To celebrate Global Accessibility Awareness Day, The Paciello Group will be
holding 24 one-hour webinars on all things accessibility. The sessions range
from beginner-to-advanced and are aimed at everyone from executives to web
developers.
Sessions start at Midnight, GMT, on May 15th. Our online schedule at
http://inclusivedesign24.org/ should do the automatic conversion for you. If
not, you can enter the time(s) at the following website and get the relevant
information for your timezone:
http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc
To join the meeting, go to
https://my.adobeconnect.com/id24/
Follow the event with the dual hashtags #ID24 #GAAD
Léonie.
----------------
If you have never attended an Adobe Connect meeting before:
Test your connection:
https://my.adobeconnect.com/common/help/en/support/meeting_test.htm
Get a quick overview: http://www.adobe.com/products/adobeconnect.html
--
Karl Groves
www.karlgroves.com <http://www.karlgroves.com/>;
@karlgroves
http://www.linkedin.com/in/karlgroves
Phone: +1 410.541.6829
www.tenon.io <http://www.tenon.io/>;
What is this thing and what does it do?
http://vimeo.com/84970341
http://lanyrd.com/profile/karlgroves/
From: Greg Kraus
Date: Wed, May 14 2014 1:17PM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Karl Groves < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Also, as you mentioned, the chat pod pretty much just
> barfs out all the text all at once and without much "structure", so to
> speak.
>
This is from some testing I did about 2 years ago with Connect, so it
might not work anymore, but to make the chat more manageable with JAWS
I found the following.
1. If the virtual cursor is on, and if I am focused in the text box to
compose a text message, if I arrow up it starts reading the last
message first. The only weird catch with this technique seems to be
that I have to first tab through all of the chat UI components before
it will work.
2. Once I read the last message in the chat history, assuming the
virtual cursor is on, I can set a JAWS placemark there, and when more
messages come in later, I can simply jump back to that placemark then
arrow down to read all of the messages that have come in since the
last time.
> Elluminate, which I would have considered as an alternative, is now part of
> Blackboard and, as far as I know, can't be used on its own anymore. Either
> way my experience with Elluminate hasn't been recent enough to be
> comfortable with using it.
For future reference, we use Blackboard Collaborate (formerly
Elluminate) at NC State University. It can still be used as a
standalone product.
Greg
--
Greg Kraus
University IT Accessibility Coordinator
NC State University
919.513.4087
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
http://go.ncsu.edu/itaccess
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Léonie Watson < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Karl Groves wrote:
>
> "Adobe Connect has some issues of its own. One SR user mentioned a keyboard trap in some pods, which require you to resort to work arounds in order to get to other pods. Also, as you mentioned, the chat pod pretty much just barfs out all the text all at once and without much "structure", so to speak."
>
>
>
> For any keyboard users reading this, you can extricate yourself from this by using Control f6 to cycle between the different pods, and Control space to move to the menubar at the top.
>
>
>
> Léonie.
>
> --
>
> @LeonieWatson Carpe diem
>
>
>
> From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Karl Groves
> Sent: 14 May 2014 19:00
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Cc: Léonie Watson
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
>
>
>
> Greg:
>
>
>
> We decided to go with Adobe Connect for a couple of reasons:
>
>
>
> First, the other major players in this space, WebEx and GoToMeeting/ GoToWebinar have very significant accessibility issues, the likes of which are really problematic.
>
>
>
> Adobe Connect has some issues of its own. One SR user mentioned a keyboard trap in some pods, which require you to resort to work arounds in order to get to other pods. Also, as you mentioned, the chat pod pretty much just barfs out all the text all at once and without much "structure", so to speak.
>
>
>
> Elluminate, which I would have considered as an alternative, is now part of Blackboard and, as far as I know, can't be used on its own anymore. Either way my experience with Elluminate hasn't been recent enough to be comfortable with using it.
>
>
>
> The same goes for other options. There are other meeting products out there, such as LucidMeetings, which have taken positive steps for accessibility. I actually have a LucidMeetings account. Unfortunately, LucidMeetings is far better suited for meetings than Webinars, and doesn't have the robust VOIP capabilities of handling as many concurrent users as Connect can.
>
>
>
> Ultimately, despite its flaws, Adobe Connect was overall the better choice. Both for accessibility and for applicability.
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Greg Wocher < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I am curious as to why you are using Adobe Connect? The college where I attend my classes online uses this software and I have found it extremely problematic to use. For instance in the chat pod I can not read individual chat messages. It wants to read all of them at the same time. I am also unable to reliably read anything in the attendee pod. This is using JAWS or NVDA. Also this is with the adobe connect plug in installed. This question is just out of curiosity because I would like to be able to use adobe connect more proficiently.
>
> Thanks,
> Greg Wocher
>
> Follow me on Twitter @GWocher
>
>
>
> On 5/14/2014 11:02 AM, Léonie Watson wrote:
>
> Everyone,
>
>
> To celebrate Global Accessibility Awareness Day, The Paciello Group will be
> holding 24 one-hour webinars on all things accessibility. The sessions range
> from beginner-to-advanced and are aimed at everyone from executives to web
> developers.
>
>
> Sessions start at Midnight, GMT, on May 15th. Our online schedule at
> http://inclusivedesign24.org/ should do the automatic conversion for you. If
> not, you can enter the time(s) at the following website and get the relevant
> information for your timezone:
> http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc
>
>
> To join the meeting, go to
>
>
> https://my.adobeconnect.com/id24/
>
>
>
> Follow the event with the dual hashtags #ID24 #GAAD
>
>
> Léonie.
>
>
> ----------------
>
> If you have never attended an Adobe Connect meeting before:
>
>
> Test your connection:
> https://my.adobeconnect.com/common/help/en/support/meeting_test.htm
>
>
> Get a quick overview: http://www.adobe.com/products/adobeconnect.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> Karl Groves
> www.karlgroves.com <http://www.karlgroves.com/>;
> @karlgroves
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/karlgroves
> Phone: +1 410.541.6829
>
> www.tenon.io <http://www.tenon.io/>;
>
>
>
> What is this thing and what does it do?
> http://vimeo.com/84970341
>
>
>
> http://lanyrd.com/profile/karlgroves/
>
> > >
From: Lucy Greco
Date: Wed, May 14 2014 1:32PM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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Hello:
I would hesitate to say that aluminate is always accessible. it is flakey
at best. I find that have of the time when I try and use it the access
bridge does not kick in and there is no feedback from the interface. Its
vary hit and miss as it is vary java access bridge dependent and if a java
update has happened it may not work as it did even the last time you used
it.
Lucia Greco
Web Accessibility Evangelist
IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration
University of California, Berkeley
(510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
Follow me on twitter @accessaces
From: Jonathan Metz
Date: Wed, May 14 2014 2:11PM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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Youtube? Vimeo?
I haven¹t pulled an all-nighter since college, and I¹m pretty much immune
to coffee.
Jon
On 5/14/14, 3:05 PM, "Léonie Watson" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>Todd Weissenberger wrote:
>"Will the webinars be archived for those who cannot attend?"
>
>We're working on that part. It's difficult to know what to do with 24
>hours
>of video footage until they can be hosted somewhere, but we're working
>hard
>to find a solution... before 12am GMT of course!
>
>Léonie
>
>
>--
>@LeonieWatson Carpe diem
>
>
>
From: Jennifer Sutton
Date: Wed, May 14 2014 5:21PM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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Greetings, WebAIM:
Though this link comes a bit late to the "party," I thought some
might find it useful.
I am assuming that the upcoming seminar is using version 9 of Adobe Connect.
It took me a while to find this documentation, so people might want
to post a link to it to their registration pages, in future, though,
of course, the version could change:
Adobe Connect 9 Accessibility features
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/connect/9.0/using/WS5ae85155c1a0214d1172e081227b89777b-8000.html
Best,
Jennifer
From: Bryan Jones
Date: Wed, May 14 2014 9:33PM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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Léonie Watson < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> If you have never attended an Adobe Connect meeting before: Test your connection:
> https://my.adobeconnect.com/common/help/en/support/meeting_test.htm
>
Greetings All,
If someone else here is using Safari on a Mac running OS 10.9.2, would you mind attempting to run the Adobe COnnect test at the link provided above? Using VOiceOver I am unable to locate any test results on the page, but I do detect a Flash element and am thinking this means as a Mac User I might not have access to these test results.
Thank you,
Bryan
From: mark novak
Date: Wed, May 14 2014 10:20PM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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hi Bryan
Safari on a Mac running 10.9.2, the results 'appear' just below the
Adobe Connect heading,
but VO doesn't seem to find that information, least not using a simple
tab key navigation.
Mark
On 5/14/14, 10:33 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:
> Léonie Watson< = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>> If you have never attended an Adobe Connect meeting before: Test your connection:
>> https://my.adobeconnect.com/common/help/en/support/meeting_test.htm
>>
> Greetings All,
> If someone else here is using Safari on a Mac running OS 10.9.2, would you mind attempting to run the Adobe COnnect test at the link provided above? Using VOiceOver I am unable to locate any test results on the page, but I do detect a Flash element and am thinking this means as a Mac User I might not have access to these test results.
>
> Thank you,
> Bryan
>
>
>
> > > >
From: Jon Avila
Date: Thu, May 15 2014 5:06AM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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Just an FYI to Bryan's question. Flash is required for Connect. It is not accessibility supported on the Mac. Last time I checked the iOS version of connect did not expose accessibility to VoiceOver either.
Jon
> On May 14, 2014, at 11:33 PM, Bryan Jones < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Léonie Watson < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>> If you have never attended an Adobe Connect meeting before: Test your connection:
>> https://my.adobeconnect.com/common/help/en/support/meeting_test.htm
> Greetings All,
> If someone else here is using Safari on a Mac running OS 10.9.2, would you mind attempting to run the Adobe COnnect test at the link provided above? Using VOiceOver I am unable to locate any test results on the page, but I do detect a Flash element and am thinking this means as a Mac User I might not have access to these test results.
>
> Thank you,
> Bryan
>
>
>
> > >
From: Don Mauck
Date: Thu, May 15 2014 7:51AM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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I wonder, I'm using JAWS with this Adobe connect and am struggling trying to read and or chat. I've looked at the hotkeys for Connect and nothing there for reading chat's. I'm typing in the chat edit box and hit the send button, however, my questions do not get answered. Even if they get answered on-line I'm not seeing them. Wow, am I that mis-informed on how to use this, seems like it should be quite simple.
From: Léonie Watson
Date: Thu, May 15 2014 9:15AM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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Don Mauck wrote:
"I wonder, I'm using JAWS with this Adobe connect and am struggling trying to read and or chat. I've looked at the hotkeys for Connect and nothing there for reading chat's. I'm typing in the chat edit box and hit the send button, however, my questions do not get answered. Even if they get answered on-line I'm not seeing them. Wow, am I that mis-informed on how to use this, seems like it should be quite simple."
The chat isn't a good experience with Jaws. If it helps, the chat feature is mostly being used to post questions to the presenters at the end of their talk. They'll answer as many as they can in the time left, but will do so verbally, not via the chat widget.
HTH.
Léonie
From: Don Mauck
Date: Thu, May 15 2014 9:38AM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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Thanks, I guess you'd think that for an accessibility seminar they'd find a better application than Adobe connect.
From: Jennifer Sutton
Date: Thu, May 15 2014 10:06AM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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First, let me commend Adobe for its ongoing commitment to
accessibility, in terms of supporting organizations in the community
who are offering so much free content. It is unfortunate that
accessibility is often so much harder than it would appear.
Given all of the negativity about Adobe Connect being posted on this
list and on Twitter, and given Karl's responses to concerns, as
raised yesterday, I'd love to know what people *would* suggest that
TPG, or Knowbility (for that matter) should have chosen instead.
It's easy to criticize, I think, but perhaps much harder to come up
with a positive and workable solution.
As an example, while I participated on the phone in a virtual seminar
held yesterday, using Collaborate, all of the hoopla with Java
AccessBridge felt like too much work to me. Would those who are
frustrated have preferred that?
Who's got a positive contribution to offer? What's the best thing
going out there?
Yes, many of us in the blind community know of Talking Communities,
but I suspect that it is not as feature rich as necessary. But I'm
willing to be corrected.
I'm eagerly looking forward to knowing what the secret feature-filled
seminar platform is.
Best,
Jennifer
From: Karl Groves
Date: Thu, May 15 2014 10:12AM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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Don,
As I mentioned in my response yesterday, I'm unaware of a more accessible
or more applicable alternative. Greg Kraus did mention that you can still
use Elluminate as a standalone product, which I did not know. I've used
Elluminate in the past and found it quite accessible though IIRC it runs on
Java and so JAWS users would need JAB, etc.
There's also the issue of reliability. Total number of users online so far
has been 160. Any other "accessible" alternatives I'm aware of are able of
handling that many people over VOIP reliably.
Based on the success of today's event, its a definite that we'll be doing
this again. If anyone on this list wants to toss out ideas for a more
accessible alternative that can handle close to 200 people at a time, I'm
excited to hear about it
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Don Mauck < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Thanks, I guess you'd think that for an accessibility seminar they'd find
> a better application than Adobe connect.
>
From: Don Mauck
Date: Thu, May 15 2014 10:15AM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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I'm not complaining as much as you might think. It's very frustrating however when a screen reader participant can't even read or reply to others whom are chatting. Stand up for what's not right, that's what this is all about, and this isn't.
From: Jonathan H
Date: Thu, May 15 2014 10:16AM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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On 14 May 2014 20:05, Léonie Watson < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Todd Weissenberger wrote:
> "Will the webinars be archived for those who cannot attend?"
>
> We're working on that part. It's difficult to know what to do with 24 hours
> of video footage until they can be hosted somewhere, but we're working hard
> to find a solution... before 12am GMT of course!
Youtube it! Perleeease? The web seminars** look really interesting, but I
know that my connection, browser etc is OK, but it's just inaudible - it
chops in and out. Right now I can hear a woman apparently saying "marklar"
a lot, much clearer than the previous speaker, but it's still too low
quality.
So, yes, I'd LOVE to be able to see these sessions in their intended
quality and would be extremely grateful if they could be youtubed
afterwards.
**As it's one of the world's consistently most-despised cringe-inducing
"new words", I will never type the contraction of the words "web" and
"seminar".
Right, I'm off for a lunak. (That's a "lunch break" - obviously!).
From: Don Mauck
Date: Thu, May 15 2014 10:17AM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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Karl --
I do understand all this, I'm only being a voice, that's what being pro-active is about isn't it?
From: Don Mauck
Date: Thu, May 15 2014 10:28AM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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That is a lot of video, uTube should be a good place to start I'd think. Also will the PowerPoint slides be accessible? I keep hearing "Slideshow," is that where they will live? Also, I assume that the slides are marked up correctly.
From: Karl Groves
Date: Thu, May 15 2014 10:29AM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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Don,
Your statement was "Thanks, I guess you'd think that for an accessibility
seminar they'd find a better application than Adobe connect"
Which one would that be?
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Don Mauck < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Karl --
> I do understand all this, I'm only being a voice, that's what being
> pro-active is about isn't it?
>
From: Lucy Greco
Date: Thu, May 15 2014 10:35AM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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Well said:
I am proud to call you a friend. We need to keep trying if we don't let's
all just pack up our #a11y hat and go home. The sad thing is that what the
people that are complaining about is that this is not a presentation form
screen reader users and some of the presenters are screen reader users.
This event and an amassing one at that is for people who need to learn
about making a more inclusive web so stop focusing on how those of us that
know the content can get to it and lets focus on getting the #a11y news
out to as many devs as we can Lucy
Lucia Greco
Web Accessibility Evangelist
IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration
University of California, Berkeley
(510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
Follow me on twitter @accessaces
From: Greg Wocher
Date: Thu, May 15 2014 10:45AM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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Hello,
What about the platform from SeroTek called accessible event? I hear it
is fairly good. For the most part I have used adobe connect fairly
successfully at my college. One strange thing I have found is that if
you do not install the adobe connect plug in the chat works a whole lot
better. However without the plug in you cant do any of the sharing and
so forth in the share and video pods. This is the one thing I have
never really understood about this product.
Greg Wocher
Follow me on Twitter @GWocher
On 5/15/2014 12:06 PM, Jennifer Sutton wrote:
> First, let me commend Adobe for its ongoing commitment to
> accessibility, in terms of supporting organizations in the community
> who are offering so much free content. It is unfortunate that
> accessibility is often so much harder than it would appear.
>
> Given all of the negativity about Adobe Connect being posted on this
> list and on Twitter, and given Karl's responses to concerns, as raised
> yesterday, I'd love to know what people *would* suggest that TPG, or
> Knowbility (for that matter) should have chosen instead.
>
> It's easy to criticize, I think, but perhaps much harder to come up
> with a positive and workable solution.
>
> As an example, while I participated on the phone in a virtual seminar
> held yesterday, using Collaborate, all of the hoopla with Java
> AccessBridge felt like too much work to me. Would those who are
> frustrated have preferred that?
>
> Who's got a positive contribution to offer? What's the best thing
> going out there?
>
> Yes, many of us in the blind community know of Talking Communities,
> but I suspect that it is not as feature rich as necessary. But I'm
> willing to be corrected.
>
>
> I'm eagerly looking forward to knowing what the secret feature-filled
> seminar platform is.
>
> Best,
> Jennifer
>
> > > >
From: Don Mauck
Date: Thu, May 15 2014 10:44AM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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Thankful the seminar. Obviously I need to keep my other opinions to myself to keep all from being so upset.
From: Paul J. Adam
Date: Thu, May 15 2014 3:40PM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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If the Chat interface is a major barrier can we get an alternative chat going for future adobe connect events? I know it's rare to find a perfect software that's totally accessible and meets all the feature needs like handling tons of users at once. The W3C uses IRC, that would work right?
Thanks!
Paul J. Adam
Accessibility Evangelist
www.deque.com
On May 15, 2014, at 11:35 AM, Lucy Greco < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Well said:
> I am proud to call you a friend. We need to keep trying if we don't let's
> all just pack up our #a11y hat and go home. The sad thing is that what the
> people that are complaining about is that this is not a presentation form
> screen reader users and some of the presenters are screen reader users.
> This event and an amassing one at that is for people who need to learn
> about making a more inclusive web so stop focusing on how those of us that
> know the content can get to it and lets focus on getting the #a11y news
> out to as many devs as we can Lucy
>
> Lucia Greco
> Web Accessibility Evangelist
> IST - Architecture, Platforms, and Integration
> University of California, Berkeley
> (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
> Follow me on twitter @accessaces
>
>
From: Don Mauck
Date: Thu, May 15 2014 4:00PM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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I guess I don't understand why my comments upset folks. I'm in the business of being truthful, is that so bad!!!!
From: Paul J. Adam
Date: Thu, May 15 2014 4:28PM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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I think they just want you to suggest a proposed solution or alternative that's fully accessible and has the same features as connect. Sounds like that's not possible with Chat so how about an accessible alternative interface for all users and then turn chat off in Adobe Connect. Force the chat into the accessible alternative.
I agree it sucks that I'm able to have fun in the chat room with all the sighted folks while I don't see any of the blind people I know chatting and being a part of the side conversations.
So I propose just do what the WAI group does and use IRC.
Paul J. Adam
Accessibility Evangelist
www.deque.com
On May 15, 2014, at 5:00 PM, Don Mauck < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> I guess I don't understand why my comments upset folks. I'm in the business of being truthful, is that so bad!!!!
>
From: Jonathan Metz
Date: Thu, May 15 2014 4:33PM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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Hi,
Over the past few months, I¹ve noticed a lot of ideas and conversations
happening in the accessibility community, such as including offline
formats when making the web accessible or candid dialogs on "applying more
professional rigor" to our profession. Two years ago, Cyndi Rowland wrote
of concerns regarding certification
(http://webaim.org/blog/accessibility-certification/), but now there seems
to be more acceptance to trying to see where that goes.
Last week John Foliot expressed a sentiment that ours "has been to date a
vibrant but often grass-roots community." People who work in this field
are typically passionate about what we do, and I think the field benefits
from the work of everyone in it. As attitudes, ideas, and philosophies
evolve with technology, I believe that communication in our community
should reflect those changes.
Historically speaking, it remains common practice for many professionals
to be passive aggressive or overly critical of perceived lack of
accessibility features. Today might have served an example, but it¹s
honestly nothing new. A month ago, I made a comment on Linked-In about how
only pointing out areas that lack addressing the needs of certain
disabilities exacerbates the mentality that nothing should ever happen
unless it serves every individuals' need.
Currently nothing works for every single person with a disability. Helping
others will undoubtedly affect the access of others, so it¹s important to
balance requested features against specific audiences and ultimately
against who gets ignored in the process. A perfect example of this is the
fact that there are very few projects successfully implementing all three
(A, AA, and AAA) WCAG guideline.
If there is something (or an audience) that is not mission-critical to
success, it may get overlooked. The awesome thing is, most of us are
really good at trying to figure out a better solution anyway. As people
who share similar goals we should figure out a better way to work
together.
Global Accessibility Awareness Day (GAAD) is a tremendous benefit to new
people who do not have much experience in accessibility, but I would argue
that it can be crucial for veterans of the field as well. The value of
GAAD today could be to address a need of moving from the common practice
of provoking others into action solely by criticism.
In other words, let¹s stop being GAADflies!
On 5/15/14, 6:00 PM, "Don Mauck" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>I guess I don't understand why my comments upset folks. I'm in the
>business of being truthful, is that so bad!!!!
>
From: Léonie Watson
Date: Fri, May 16 2014 2:07AM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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Don Mauck wrote:
"I guess I don't understand why my comments upset folks. I'm in the
business of being truthful, is that so bad!!!!"
Let me see if I can explain. When we began planning the event, we looked for
the most accessible platform we could find. We looked at different options,
all of which fell a long way short of even basic accessibility. Connect met
a lot of our accessibility criteria, and in the specific case of screen
readers it enabled people to connect and listen to presentations, and to
give presentations using a screen reader.
We put a lot of time and effort into ID24, and many people gave their time
and knowledge to help plan, prmote and deliver the 24 talks. If you feel
your comments upset anyone, it's perhaps because the implication was that
no-one put enough thought into choosing an accessible platform.
Constructive criticism is always welcome. It will help us make ID24 even
better next time around. Criticism on its own not so much.
Léonie.
From: Léonie Watson
Date: Fri, May 16 2014 2:11AM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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Paul J. Adam wrote:
"If the Chat interface is a major barrier can we get an alternative chat
going for future adobe connect events? I know it's rare to find a perfect
software that's totally accessible and meets all the feature needs like
handling tons of users at once. The W3C uses IRC, that would work right?"
This sounds like a really good idea. I know there are IRC options that work
well on Windows with a couple of different screen readers. Do you know what
the options are like on other platforms by any chance?
Léonie.
--
@LeonieWatson Carpe diem
From: Denis Boudreau
Date: Fri, May 16 2014 6:31AM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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Don,
If I may add... not having been involved in this effort, but being witness to similar things all the time in efforts of various sizes.
We (the accessibility community) are often very quick to condemn any effort at publishing content about accessibility that is not 100% accessible. We need to be more pragmatic about all of this. In an ideal world, of course, every bit of published information would be accessible, whether its content on a web site, video, podcast and so on. But its not always possible. Sometimes, there just isnt enough resource available to go all the way. Or time. Or skills. Or money. Other times, like in this particular case, the technology is just not there (lets not pretend sub par solutions can compete with Connect for this). What were the other serious options?
Im not talking about situations where content is published by people who dont bother with going the extra mile, Im talking about those who do care, but simply cannot, for whatever reason. The folks at TPG are amongst the best experts in the world, they are very much aware of the implications and know how important this is. They truly get it. Adobe Connect wasnt perfect, but it was the best professional option available. Adobe too is committed to accessibility and they have some of the best accessibility minds in the business as well. They too, really get it. So again, what was the other option? Simply cancel all 24 hours worth of content for ID24, because they couldnt get everything perfect? How would that have helped further the cause of accessibility on Global Accessibility Awareness Day?
I just stop for a second to think about how much time was collectively put into this effort and Im mind blown. Think how much time was put in by the organizers to put this together
easily 100 is my guess. Most likely more. Then, think about how much time each speaker put into his or her materials to be ready for the event. If all of them spent an average of 25 to 50 hours, it amounts to 600 to 1200 hours of preparation. Thats anywhere between 30 and 50 people collectively devoting well over 1000 hours just to share information about accessibility to all of us for free. Who else does something like this in the larger web development community?
When you share comments like that, you are dismissing all these efforts and you boil it down to "a bad event organized by clueless people. I understand it wasnt your intent, but thatS how it comes out. No wonder people outside our field of interest look at the accessibility folks and talk about zealots. What TPG did is by far the most ambitious accessibility marathon Ive ever seen. One usually has to wait until an event is organized into his or her city to go and listen to maybe 4 or 5 sessions. We had 24 sessions, for free, delivered to our doorstep. It wasnt perfect, granted, but really? Can we just say thank you publicly instead, and bring our concerns discreetly through email? These guys are easy to find...
So yes, constructive criticism goes a long way. But criticism on its own only depreciates the outstanding effort that was out together by TPG and the speakers. I often find that a lot of people who ask questions like Im in the business of being truthful, is that so bad are surprised when they get other people upset. Maybe the people in the business of being truthful should try to be in the business of being tactful and appreciative for a change. Or maybe in the business of actually being part of the solution. Who knows what might happen then?
/Denis
On May 16, 2014, at 4:07 AM, Léonie Watson < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Don Mauck wrote:
> "I guess I don't understand why my comments upset folks. I'm in the
> business of being truthful, is that so bad!!!!"
>
> Let me see if I can explain. When we began planning the event, we looked for
> the most accessible platform we could find. We looked at different options,
> all of which fell a long way short of even basic accessibility. Connect met
> a lot of our accessibility criteria, and in the specific case of screen
> readers it enabled people to connect and listen to presentations, and to
> give presentations using a screen reader.
>
> We put a lot of time and effort into ID24, and many people gave their time
> and knowledge to help plan, promote and deliver the 24 talks. If you feel
> your comments upset anyone, it's perhaps because the implication was that
> no-one put enough thought into choosing an accessible platform.
>
> Constructive criticism is always welcome. It will help us make ID24 even
> better next time around. Criticism on its own not so much.
>
>
> Léonie.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > >
From: Don Mauck
Date: Fri, May 16 2014 8:12AM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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Seems like that would be a good idea.
From: Paul J. Adam
Date: Fri, May 16 2014 8:34AM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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I know we have blind contributors to the W3C's WAI group so they must be in the IRC chat too right!? I use textual for OS X but I have no idea if it's accessible.
Any blind folks on here participate in IRC chat want to recommend an accessible client?
Thanks!
Paul J. Adam
Accessibility Evangelist
www.deque.com
On May 16, 2014, at 9:12 AM, Don Mauck < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Seems like that would be a good idea.
>
>
From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Fri, May 16 2014 8:41AM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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Greetings.
Thanks TPG for the tremendous effort you put in, and a lot of good
lectures (yes, please do post videos, transcripts and slides as well
as copies of the text chat somewhere. If you can only post part of
that, such as slides and text, just that would already be a goldmine
of a11y information).
I had issues with Adobe connect and it was frustrating (also note no
support for Flash based content in the infamous Apple empire is
another source of trouble, but the a11y prophet Denis predictd the end
of the evil Flash before the dwn of 2015, so here is to hoping that
prediction turneth out to be true).
It is frustrating as an attendee to any seminar, let alone one about
accessibility, to not have the fully accessible experience, and it is
a little bit of a mental blow to see how far we have yet to go as a
community for changing the world.
I do not blame TPG for that, and, as Denis dais, I am super impressed
with the effort they put in to this.
Suggestions for either now or next time:
- organizers, could you write a blog of the choices you faced and the
difficulties finding an accessible meeting platform. The rest of us
can share that via social media and help carry feedback back to the
platform vendors. It would have been brilliant if that was done prior
to the actual event, but it could be done in retrospect or before the
next event (and hopefully the story will be a little bit different
next year, if we collectively keep up the fight).
- I like the idea of IRC as a chat platform. As a community I am sure
we can come up with guides to accessible IRC clients on different
platforms. That is something we can work on over the coming months, if
that is the way we decide to go.
Access to text chats are an essential part of a productive and
accessible experience. Audio alone very often is not enough.
In text questions get answer, discussion happens, links, quotes and
other highlights are often posted there.
As an example, the lady that was talking about Word and document
accessibility at 9am EST yesterday )I am too lazy to go dig up her
name just now) mentioned a brand new color contrast analyzer plug in
for Firefox. I could not find it, because the audio wasn´t very good,
I know it was some sort of a "gimp". This would have been a perfect
item for a text chat question, and probably was posted in the chat.
So let´s turn this effort into positive energy. The problem isn´t TPG,
they had nothing good to choose from. The problem are the lack of
accessible options out there. This is frustrating for everybody, and
shows us that the fight has just begun.
Onwards!
On 5/16/14, Don Mauck < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Seems like that would be a good idea.
>
>
From: Steve Faulkner
Date: Fri, May 16 2014 8:43AM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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On 16 May 2014 15:34, Paul J. Adam < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Any blind folks on here participate in IRC chat want to recommend an
> accessible client?
not blind, but I have heard that chatzilla addon for firefox is good
--
Regards
SteveF
HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>;
From: Jennifer Sutton
Date: Fri, May 16 2014 10:25AM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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I believe that Atium on the Mac supports chat.
And I have used InstantBird, for Windows.
I also believe that the Make WordPress Accessible community already
made up a collection of accessible chat client options, on a range of
platforms, for its group. I don't have the band width for this
effort, but here are the details for those who do, so someone can go ask. From:
http://make.wordpress.org/
<http://make.wordpress.org/accessibility/>;Accessibility
The a11y group provides accessibility expertise across the project.
They make sure that WordPress core and all of WordPress' resources
are accessible.
Weekly IRC chats: Wednesdays @ 19:00 UTC
#wordpress-ui on irc.freenode.net
Jennifer
From: Alastair Campbell
Date: Sat, May 17 2014 3:04PM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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The Mac IRC client "Textual" is reasonably good with VoiceOver - I checked
with Josh de Lioncourt (@Lioncourt) and that was the recommendation from
the Maccessibility podcast.
-Alastair
From: Léonie Watson
Date: Sun, May 18 2014 3:28AM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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Alastair Campbell wrote:
"The Mac IRC client "Textual" is reasonably good with VoiceOver - I checked
with Josh de Lioncourt (@Lioncourt) and that was the recommendation from the
Maccessibility podcast."
Thanks Alastair. Sounds like IRC could be a reasonably "all round" option
next time, with some helpful "how to" info etc.
Léonie.
--
@LeonieWatson Carpe diem
From: Don Mauck
Date: Mon, May 19 2014 12:00PM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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Good to know for those who have a Mac.
From: Vidhya Sriram
Date: Wed, May 21 2014 11:29AM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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Leonie,
I missed your email on time. I am very interested in these courses and am a
novice in the Accessibility domain. I work extensively on customer
experience mapping and have felt a need to grow this muscle.
I would like the slides / access to these webinars. Also wondering if I can
reach out to you for more.Please feel free to share any advice for a
beginner in this field.
Thanks,
vidhya.
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Léonie Watson < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Everyone,
>
>
>
> To celebrate Global Accessibility Awareness Day, The Paciello Group will be
> holding 24 one-hour webinars on all things accessibility. The sessions
> range
> from beginner-to-advanced and are aimed at everyone from executives to web
> developers.
>
>
>
> Sessions start at Midnight, GMT, on May 15th. Our online schedule at
> http://inclusivedesign24.org/ should do the automatic conversion for you.
> If
> not, you can enter the time(s) at the following website and get the
> relevant
> information for your timezone:
> http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc
>
>
>
> To join the meeting, go to
>
>
>
> https://my.adobeconnect.com/id24/
>
>
>
>
>
> Follow the event with the dual hashtags #ID24 #GAAD
>
>
>
> Léonie.
>
>
>
> ----------------
>
> If you have never attended an Adobe Connect meeting before:
>
>
>
> Test your connection:
> https://my.adobeconnect.com/common/help/en/support/meeting_test.htm
>
>
>
> Get a quick overview: http://www.adobe.com/products/adobeconnect.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> @LeonieWatson Carpe diem
>
>
>
> > > >
From: Léonie Watson
Date: Wed, May 21 2014 1:26PM
Subject: Re: Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
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Vidhya Sriram wrote:
"I missed your email on time. I am very interested in these courses and am a novice in the Accessibility domain."
We recorded all the talks, and once they've been processed and we've asked all the presenters to share their slides, we'll post everything to the inclusivedesign24.org website. We'll keep you posted.
"Also wondering if I can reach out to you for more.Please feel free to share any advice for a beginner in this field."
If you want to learn about accessibility, it's a good idea to read articles and tutorials to get a sense of some of the topics. There are many good sources out there, but here are just a few to try…
WebAIM:
http://webaim.org/articles/
TPG:
http://blog.paciellogroup.com/
Humanising Technology:
http://www.nomensa.com/blog
WebAxe:
http://www.webaxe.org
Accessibility Matters:
http://www.deque.com/blog/
SSB Bart:
https://www.ssbbartgroup.com/blog/
If you have questions, the good people on this list are a great source of knowledge, expertise and wisdom. Post a message if you're not sure about something, and we'll do our best to help.
Léonie.
--
@LeonieWatson Carpe diem
From: Vidhya Sriram [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: 21 May 2014 18:30
To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ; WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Inclusive Design 24, by The Paciello Group for GAAD
Leonie,
I missed your email on time. I am very interested in these courses and am a novice in the Accessibility domain. I work extensively on customer experience mapping and have felt a need to grow this muscle.
I would like the slides / access to these webinars. Also wondering if I can reach out to you for more.Please feel free to share any advice for a beginner in this field.
Thanks,
vidhya.
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Léonie Watson < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
Everyone,
To celebrate Global Accessibility Awareness Day, The Paciello Group will be
holding 24 one-hour webinars on all things accessibility. The sessions range
from beginner-to-advanced and are aimed at everyone from executives to web
developers.
Sessions start at Midnight, GMT, on May 15th. Our online schedule at
http://inclusivedesign24.org/ should do the automatic conversion for you. If
not, you can enter the time(s) at the following website and get the relevant
information for your timezone:
http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc
To join the meeting, go to
https://my.adobeconnect.com/id24/
Follow the event with the dual hashtags #ID24 #GAAD
Léonie.
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Test your connection:
https://my.adobeconnect.com/common/help/en/support/meeting_test.htm
Get a quick overview: http://www.adobe.com/products/adobeconnect.html
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