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From: L Snider
Date: Sun, Aug 14 2016 1:04PM
Subject: Letter accessibility
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Hi Everyone,
I have been thinking about this one for a while, and wanted to hear how you
approach this one.
To make reports, and the like, accessible is pretty straightforward.
However, when working with a letter, do you use styled headings?
In some letters, I can see making the RE: line a heading (H2) and maybe
even the company name if it is in text at the top (H1). Do you do this?
Also for contracts, I can see the sub titles in a contract styled into
headings, but most of them have the 'this is a contract between X and X',
do you make that into an H1? Do you do this?
Thanks in advance! Curious to know what everyone does for these kinds of
docs!
Cheers
Lisa
From: Jim Homme
Date: Sun, Aug 14 2016 1:12PM
Subject: Re: Letter accessibility
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Hi Lisa,
FFor the sake of argument, let me assume Microsoft Word.
The title of the document would use the Title style.
I would then apply headings using the Heading 1 style for each major section, and then use Heading 2 through the necessary level of heading style. If you think the document will ever be converted to the web, avoid levels 7 and higher.
Once you have the headings in place, go back through and use the multi-level list, rather than typing in the numbers by hand. Word has numbering schemes for various document types.
Then, if your document requires a table of contents, put your curser where you want it to go, right click or SHIfT+F10, and choose the automatic table of contents entry.
For the addressing part of the letter, I think there is the Address style, but I'd have to check that.
Hope that helps.
Jim
=========
Jim Homme,
Accessibility Consultant, Web developer,
Bender HighTest Team,
Bender Consulting Services, inc.
412-787-8567,
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >,
http://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-accessible-technology-solutions
On Aug 14, 2016, at 3:04 PM, L Snider < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
I have been thinking about this one for a while, and wanted to hear how you
approach this one.
To make reports, and the like, accessible is pretty straightforward.
However, when working with a letter, do you use styled headings?
In some letters, I can see making the RE: line a heading (H2) and maybe
even the company name if it is in text at the top (H1). Do you do this?
Also for contracts, I can see the sub titles in a contract styled into
headings, but most of them have the 'this is a contract between X and X',
do you make that into an H1? Do you do this?
Thanks in advance! Curious to know what everyone does for these kinds of
docs!
Cheers
Lisa
From: L Snider
Date: Sun, Aug 14 2016 1:52PM
Subject: Re: Letter accessibility
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Hi Jim,
The issue that I was musing about was in the letter, where if you are lucky
you have a 'RE' section, which could be given a heading (and rarely do you
have a company name up top to give a heading to)... If you don't even have
the 'RE:' then the address could be styled, but there would be no other
headings as letters don't usually have sections. That is the issue I have
been working on the most, and I am wondering what others do with letters
that don't have anything major to make into a heading.
Contracts are different, because they usually have good things to use
headings on-except at the top where you have the 'X and X go into a
contract'. That is way too long usually for an H1, and with legal you can't
change the way it is structured.
I wish they were more like reports, but almost always they aren't!
Cheers
Lisa
On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Jim Homme < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hi Lisa,
> FFor the sake of argument, let me assume Microsoft Word.
>
> The title of the document would use the Title style.
>
> I would then apply headings using the Heading 1 style for each major
> section, and then use Heading 2 through the necessary level of heading
> style. If you think the document will ever be converted to the web, avoid
> levels 7 and higher.
>
> Once you have the headings in place, go back through and use the
> multi-level list, rather than typing in the numbers by hand. Word has
> numbering schemes for various document types.
>
> Then, if your document requires a table of contents, put your curser where
> you want it to go, right click or SHIfT+F10, and choose the automatic table
> of contents entry.
>
> For the addressing part of the letter, I think there is the Address style,
> but I'd have to check that.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Jim
>
>
> =========>
> Jim Homme,
> Accessibility Consultant, Web developer,
> Bender HighTest Team,
> Bender Consulting Services, inc.
> 412-787-8567,
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >,
> http://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-
> accessible-technology-solutions
>
> On Aug 14, 2016, at 3:04 PM, L Snider < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto:lsni
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >> wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I have been thinking about this one for a while, and wanted to hear how you
> approach this one.
>
> To make reports, and the like, accessible is pretty straightforward.
> However, when working with a letter, do you use styled headings?
>
> In some letters, I can see making the RE: line a heading (H2) and maybe
> even the company name if it is in text at the top (H1). Do you do this?
>
> Also for contracts, I can see the sub titles in a contract styled into
> headings, but most of them have the 'this is a contract between X and X',
> do you make that into an H1? Do you do this?
>
> Thanks in advance! Curious to know what everyone does for these kinds of
> docs!
>
> Cheers
>
> Lisa
> > > > > = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > > > >
From: Jim Homme
Date: Sun, Aug 14 2016 2:03PM
Subject: Re: Letter accessibility
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Hi Lisa,
I would not give the company name a heading style. Heading styles are meant for section headings. You might want to use the Heading style. That's different from heading with a number.
=========
Jim Homme,
Accessibility Consultant, Web developer,
Bender HighTest Team,
Bender Consulting Services, inc.
412-787-8567,
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >,
http://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-accessible-technology-solutions
On Aug 14, 2016, at 3:52 PM, L Snider < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >> wrote:
Hi Jim,
The issue that I was musing about was in the letter, where if you are lucky
you have a 'RE' section, which could be given a heading (and rarely do you
have a company name up top to give a heading to)... If you don't even have
the 'RE:' then the address could be styled, but there would be no other
headings as letters don't usually have sections. That is the issue I have
been working on the most, and I am wondering what others do with letters
that don't have anything major to make into a heading.
Contracts are different, because they usually have good things to use
headings on-except at the top where you have the 'X and X go into a
contract'. That is way too long usually for an H1, and with legal you can't
change the way it is structured.
I wish they were more like reports, but almost always they aren't!
Cheers
Lisa
On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Jim Homme < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >> wrote:
Hi Lisa,
FFor the sake of argument, let me assume Microsoft Word.
The title of the document would use the Title style.
I would then apply headings using the Heading 1 style for each major
section, and then use Heading 2 through the necessary level of heading
style. If you think the document will ever be converted to the web, avoid
levels 7 and higher.
Once you have the headings in place, go back through and use the
multi-level list, rather than typing in the numbers by hand. Word has
numbering schemes for various document types.
Then, if your document requires a table of contents, put your curser where
you want it to go, right click or SHIfT+F10, and choose the automatic table
of contents entry.
For the addressing part of the letter, I think there is the Address style,
but I'd have to check that.
Hope that helps.
Jim
=========
Jim Homme,
Accessibility Consultant, Web developer,
Bender HighTest Team,
Bender Consulting Services, inc.
412-787-8567,
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ><mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >,
http://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-
accessible-technology-solutions
On Aug 14, 2016, at 3:04 PM, L Snider < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ><mailto:lsni
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >>> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
I have been thinking about this one for a while, and wanted to hear how you
approach this one.
To make reports, and the like, accessible is pretty straightforward.
However, when working with a letter, do you use styled headings?
In some letters, I can see making the RE: line a heading (H2) and maybe
even the company name if it is in text at the top (H1). Do you do this?
Also for contracts, I can see the sub titles in a contract styled into
headings, but most of them have the 'this is a contract between X and X',
do you make that into an H1? Do you do this?
Thanks in advance! Curious to know what everyone does for these kinds of
docs!
Cheers
Lisa
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From: Jamous, JP
Date: Sun, Aug 14 2016 2:09PM
Subject: Re: Letter accessibility
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For the company name, I would:
Center it
Bold it
Set it at 18PT font
You want the company name to be an eye catcher.
Use your heading 1 for an important section in your table of contents. For example,
H1: Accessibility Audit
H2: WCAG Evaluation
H3: Large View
H3: Small view
H2: Usability Report
H3: Large View
H3: Small View
As I always suggest, there should not be a need for more than 4 levels unless you are dealing with a heavily nested scientific table of contents.
From: L Snider
Date: Sun, Aug 14 2016 2:30PM
Subject: Re: Letter accessibility
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Hi Jim,
So you mean titles and not headings from the styling menu in Word?
Cheers
Lisa
On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Jim Homme < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hi Lisa,
>
> I would not give the company name a heading style. Heading styles are
> meant for section headings. You might want to use the Heading style.
> That's different from heading with a number.
>
>
> =========>
> Jim Homme,
> Accessibility Consultant, Web developer,
> Bender HighTest Team,
> Bender Consulting Services, inc.
> 412-787-8567,
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >,
> http://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-
> accessible-technology-solutions
>
> On Aug 14, 2016, at 3:52 PM, L Snider < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto:lsni
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >> wrote:
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> The issue that I was musing about was in the letter, where if you are lucky
> you have a 'RE' section, which could be given a heading (and rarely do you
> have a company name up top to give a heading to)... If you don't even have
> the 'RE:' then the address could be styled, but there would be no other
> headings as letters don't usually have sections. That is the issue I have
> been working on the most, and I am wondering what others do with letters
> that don't have anything major to make into a heading.
>
> Contracts are different, because they usually have good things to use
> headings on-except at the top where you have the 'X and X go into a
> contract'. That is way too long usually for an H1, and with legal you can't
> change the way it is structured.
>
> I wish they were more like reports, but almost always they aren't!
>
> Cheers
>
> Lisa
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Jim Homme < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <
> mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >> wrote:
>
> Hi Lisa,
> FFor the sake of argument, let me assume Microsoft Word.
>
> The title of the document would use the Title style.
>
> I would then apply headings using the Heading 1 style for each major
> section, and then use Heading 2 through the necessary level of heading
> style. If you think the document will ever be converted to the web, avoid
> levels 7 and higher.
>
> Once you have the headings in place, go back through and use the
> multi-level list, rather than typing in the numbers by hand. Word has
> numbering schemes for various document types.
>
> Then, if your document requires a table of contents, put your curser where
> you want it to go, right click or SHIfT+F10, and choose the automatic table
> of contents entry.
>
> For the addressing part of the letter, I think there is the Address style,
> but I'd have to check that.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Jim
>
>
> =========>
> Jim Homme,
> Accessibility Consultant, Web developer,
> Bender HighTest Team,
> Bender Consulting Services, inc.
> 412-787-8567,
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ><mailto:jhomme@
> benderconsult.com>,
> http://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-
> accessible-technology-solutions
>
> On Aug 14, 2016, at 3:04 PM, L Snider < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto:lsni
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ><mailto:lsni
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >>> wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I have been thinking about this one for a while, and wanted to hear how you
> approach this one.
>
> To make reports, and the like, accessible is pretty straightforward.
> However, when working with a letter, do you use styled headings?
>
> In some letters, I can see making the RE: line a heading (H2) and maybe
> even the company name if it is in text at the top (H1). Do you do this?
>
> Also for contracts, I can see the sub titles in a contract styled into
> headings, but most of them have the 'this is a contract between X and X',
> do you make that into an H1? Do you do this?
>
> Thanks in advance! Curious to know what everyone does for these kinds of
> docs!
>
> Cheers
>
> Lisa
> > > > > = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ><mailto:
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >>
> > > > > = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>
> > > > > = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> > > > >
From: L Snider
Date: Sun, Aug 14 2016 2:31PM
Subject: Re: Letter accessibility
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Hi JP,
Yes, if there is a company name at the top in text, then we can make that
into a heading. I am finding that is very rare to find now!
Cheers
Lisa
On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Jamous, JP < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> For the company name, I would:
>
> Center it
> Bold it
> Set it at 18PT font
>
> You want the company name to be an eye catcher.
>
> Use your heading 1 for an important section in your table of contents. For
> example,
>
> H1: Accessibility Audit
> H2: WCAG Evaluation
> H3: Large View
> H3: Small view
> H2: Usability Report
> H3: Large View
> H3: Small View
>
>
> As I always suggest, there should not be a need for more than 4 levels
> unless you are dealing with a heavily nested scientific table of contents.
>
From: Jim Homme
Date: Sun, Aug 14 2016 2:49PM
Subject: Re: Letter accessibility
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Lisa,
I mean the style whose name is simplyHeader. D
=========
Jim Homme,
Accessibility Consultant, Web developer,
Bender HighTest Team,
Bender Consulting Services, inc.
412-787-8567,
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >,
http://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-accessible-technology-solutions
On Aug 14, 2016, at 4:30 PM, L Snider < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >> wrote:
Hi Jim,
So you mean titles and not headings from the styling menu in Word?
Cheers
Lisa
On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Jim Homme < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >> wrote:
Hi Lisa,
I would not give the company name a heading style. Heading styles are
meant for section headings. You might want to use the Heading style.
That's different from heading with a number.
=========
Jim Homme,
Accessibility Consultant, Web developer,
Bender HighTest Team,
Bender Consulting Services, inc.
412-787-8567,
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ><mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >,
http://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-
accessible-technology-solutions
On Aug 14, 2016, at 3:52 PM, L Snider < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ><mailto:lsni
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >>> wrote:
Hi Jim,
The issue that I was musing about was in the letter, where if you are lucky
you have a 'RE' section, which could be given a heading (and rarely do you
have a company name up top to give a heading to)... If you don't even have
the 'RE:' then the address could be styled, but there would be no other
headings as letters don't usually have sections. That is the issue I have
been working on the most, and I am wondering what others do with letters
that don't have anything major to make into a heading.
Contracts are different, because they usually have good things to use
headings on-except at the top where you have the 'X and X go into a
contract'. That is way too long usually for an H1, and with legal you can't
change the way it is structured.
I wish they were more like reports, but almost always they aren't!
Cheers
Lisa
On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Jim Homme < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ><
mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >> wrote:
Hi Lisa,
FFor the sake of argument, let me assume Microsoft Word.
The title of the document would use the Title style.
I would then apply headings using the Heading 1 style for each major
section, and then use Heading 2 through the necessary level of heading
style. If you think the document will ever be converted to the web, avoid
levels 7 and higher.
Once you have the headings in place, go back through and use the
multi-level list, rather than typing in the numbers by hand. Word has
numbering schemes for various document types.
Then, if your document requires a table of contents, put your curser where
you want it to go, right click or SHIfT+F10, and choose the automatic table
of contents entry.
For the addressing part of the letter, I think there is the Address style,
but I'd have to check that.
Hope that helps.
Jim
=========
Jim Homme,
Accessibility Consultant, Web developer,
Bender HighTest Team,
Bender Consulting Services, inc.
412-787-8567,
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ><mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ><mailto:jhomme@
benderconsult.com<http://benderconsult.com>;>,
http://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-
accessible-technology-solutions
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Hi Everyone,
I have been thinking about this one for a while, and wanted to hear how you
approach this one.
To make reports, and the like, accessible is pretty straightforward.
However, when working with a letter, do you use styled headings?
In some letters, I can see making the RE: line a heading (H2) and maybe
even the company name if it is in text at the top (H1). Do you do this?
Also for contracts, I can see the sub titles in a contract styled into
headings, but most of them have the 'this is a contract between X and X',
do you make that into an H1? Do you do this?
Thanks in advance! Curious to know what everyone does for these kinds of
docs!
Cheers
Lisa
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From: L Snider
Date: Sun, Aug 14 2016 2:56PM
Subject: Re: Letter accessibility
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Hi Jim,
I don't have Header in the Word 2016 styling menu...What version are you
using and which OS?
Cheers
Lisa
On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 3:49 PM, Jim Homme < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Lisa,
>
> I mean the style whose name is simplyHeader. D
>
>
> =========>
> Jim Homme,
> Accessibility Consultant, Web developer,
> Bender HighTest Team,
> Bender Consulting Services, inc.
> 412-787-8567,
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >,
> http://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-
> accessible-technology-solutions
>
> On Aug 14, 2016, at 4:30 PM, L Snider < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto:lsni
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >> wrote:
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> So you mean titles and not headings from the styling menu in Word?
>
> Cheers
>
> Lisa
>
> On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Jim Homme < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <
> mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >> wrote:
>
> Hi Lisa,
>
> I would not give the company name a heading style. Heading styles are
> meant for section headings. You might want to use the Heading style.
> That's different from heading with a number.
>
>
> =========>
> Jim Homme,
> Accessibility Consultant, Web developer,
> Bender HighTest Team,
> Bender Consulting Services, inc.
> 412-787-8567,
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ><mailto:jhomme@
> benderconsult.com>,
> http://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-
> accessible-technology-solutions
>
> On Aug 14, 2016, at 3:52 PM, L Snider < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto:lsni
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ><mailto:lsni
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >>> wrote:
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> The issue that I was musing about was in the letter, where if you are lucky
> you have a 'RE' section, which could be given a heading (and rarely do you
> have a company name up top to give a heading to)... If you don't even have
> the 'RE:' then the address could be styled, but there would be no other
> headings as letters don't usually have sections. That is the issue I have
> been working on the most, and I am wondering what others do with letters
> that don't have anything major to make into a heading.
>
> Contracts are different, because they usually have good things to use
> headings on-except at the top where you have the 'X and X go into a
> contract'. That is way too long usually for an H1, and with legal you can't
> change the way it is structured.
>
> I wish they were more like reports, but almost always they aren't!
>
> Cheers
>
> Lisa
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Jim Homme < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <
> mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ><
> mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >> wrote:
>
> Hi Lisa,
> FFor the sake of argument, let me assume Microsoft Word.
>
> The title of the document would use the Title style.
>
> I would then apply headings using the Heading 1 style for each major
> section, and then use Heading 2 through the necessary level of heading
> style. If you think the document will ever be converted to the web, avoid
> levels 7 and higher.
>
> Once you have the headings in place, go back through and use the
> multi-level list, rather than typing in the numbers by hand. Word has
> numbering schemes for various document types.
>
> Then, if your document requires a table of contents, put your curser where
> you want it to go, right click or SHIfT+F10, and choose the automatic table
> of contents entry.
>
> For the addressing part of the letter, I think there is the Address style,
> but I'd have to check that.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Jim
>
>
> =========>
> Jim Homme,
> Accessibility Consultant, Web developer,
> Bender HighTest Team,
> Bender Consulting Services, inc.
> 412-787-8567,
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ><mailto:jhomme@
> benderconsult.com><mailto:jhomme@
> benderconsult.com<http://benderconsult.com>;>,
> http://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-
> accessible-technology-solutions
>
> On Aug 14, 2016, at 3:04 PM, L Snider < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto:lsni
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>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I have been thinking about this one for a while, and wanted to hear how you
> approach this one.
>
> To make reports, and the like, accessible is pretty straightforward.
> However, when working with a letter, do you use styled headings?
>
> In some letters, I can see making the RE: line a heading (H2) and maybe
> even the company name if it is in text at the top (H1). Do you do this?
>
> Also for contracts, I can see the sub titles in a contract styled into
> headings, but most of them have the 'this is a contract between X and X',
> do you make that into an H1? Do you do this?
>
> Thanks in advance! Curious to know what everyone does for these kinds of
> docs!
>
> Cheers
>
> Lisa
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From: Jim Homme
Date: Sun, Aug 14 2016 3:15PM
Subject: Re: Letter accessibility
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Hi Lisa,
I'm a keyboard-only screen reader user. I would use CTRL+SHIFT+S, to open the Styles dialog. I would then type the word header, which should choose the right one. It's possible I'm not remembering the right name. Anyway, if that dialog is not showing all styles, you have to choose that option.
Thanks.
Jim
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Accessibility Consultant, Web developer,
Bender HighTest Team,
Bender Consulting Services, inc.
412-787-8567,
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On Aug 14, 2016, at 4:56 PM, L Snider < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >> wrote:
Hi Jim,
I don't have Header in the Word 2016 styling menu...What version are you
using and which OS?
Cheers
Lisa
On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 3:49 PM, Jim Homme < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >> wrote:
Lisa,
I mean the style whose name is simplyHeader. D
=========
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Accessibility Consultant, Web developer,
Bender HighTest Team,
Bender Consulting Services, inc.
412-787-8567,
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http://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-
accessible-technology-solutions
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Hi Jim,
So you mean titles and not headings from the styling menu in Word?
Cheers
Lisa
On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Jim Homme < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ><
mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >> wrote:
Hi Lisa,
I would not give the company name a heading style. Heading styles are
meant for section headings. You might want to use the Heading style.
That's different from heading with a number.
=========
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Accessibility Consultant, Web developer,
Bender HighTest Team,
Bender Consulting Services, inc.
412-787-8567,
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benderconsult.com<http://benderconsult.com>;>,
http://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-
accessible-technology-solutions
On Aug 14, 2016, at 3:52 PM, L Snider < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ><mailto:lsni
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= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ><mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >>> wrote:
Hi Jim,
The issue that I was musing about was in the letter, where if you are lucky
you have a 'RE' section, which could be given a heading (and rarely do you
have a company name up top to give a heading to)... If you don't even have
the 'RE:' then the address could be styled, but there would be no other
headings as letters don't usually have sections. That is the issue I have
been working on the most, and I am wondering what others do with letters
that don't have anything major to make into a heading.
Contracts are different, because they usually have good things to use
headings on-except at the top where you have the 'X and X go into a
contract'. That is way too long usually for an H1, and with legal you can't
change the way it is structured.
I wish they were more like reports, but almost always they aren't!
Cheers
Lisa
On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Jim Homme < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ><
mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ><
mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >> wrote:
Hi Lisa,
FFor the sake of argument, let me assume Microsoft Word.
The title of the document would use the Title style.
I would then apply headings using the Heading 1 style for each major
section, and then use Heading 2 through the necessary level of heading
style. If you think the document will ever be converted to the web, avoid
levels 7 and higher.
Once you have the headings in place, go back through and use the
multi-level list, rather than typing in the numbers by hand. Word has
numbering schemes for various document types.
Then, if your document requires a table of contents, put your curser where
you want it to go, right click or SHIfT+F10, and choose the automatic table
of contents entry.
For the addressing part of the letter, I think there is the Address style,
but I'd have to check that.
Hope that helps.
Jim
=========
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Accessibility Consultant, Web developer,
Bender HighTest Team,
Bender Consulting Services, inc.
412-787-8567,
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ><mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ><mailto:jhomme@
benderconsult.com<http://benderconsult.com>;><mailto:jhomme@
benderconsult.com<http://benderconsult.com>;<http://benderconsult.com>;>,
http://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-
accessible-technology-solutions
On Aug 14, 2016, at 3:04 PM, L Snider < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ><mailto:lsni
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Hi Everyone,
I have been thinking about this one for a while, and wanted to hear how you
approach this one.
To make reports, and the like, accessible is pretty straightforward.
However, when working with a letter, do you use styled headings?
In some letters, I can see making the RE: line a heading (H2) and maybe
even the company name if it is in text at the top (H1). Do you do this?
Also for contracts, I can see the sub titles in a contract styled into
headings, but most of them have the 'this is a contract between X and X',
do you make that into an H1? Do you do this?
Thanks in advance! Curious to know what everyone does for these kinds of
docs!
Cheers
Lisa
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From: L Snider
Date: Sun, Aug 14 2016 3:25PM
Subject: Re: Letter accessibility
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Hi Jim,
I will have to try that and see which one it is! Now I am curious to see
which one comes up.
Thanks for the details, appreciate it.
Cheers
Lisa
On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Jim Homme < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hi Lisa,
> I'm a keyboard-only screen reader user. I would use CTRL+SHIFT+S, to open
> the Styles dialog. I would then type the word header, which should choose
> the right one. It's possible I'm not remembering the right name. Anyway, if
> that dialog is not showing all styles, you have to choose that option.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jim
>
>
> =========>
> Jim Homme,
> Accessibility Consultant, Web developer,
> Bender HighTest Team,
> Bender Consulting Services, inc.
> 412-787-8567,
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >,
> http://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-
> accessible-technology-solutions
>
> On Aug 14, 2016, at 4:56 PM, L Snider < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto:lsni
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >> wrote:
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> I don't have Header in the Word 2016 styling menu...What version are you
> using and which OS?
>
> Cheers
>
> Lisa
>
> On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 3:49 PM, Jim Homme < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <
> mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >> wrote:
>
> Lisa,
>
> I mean the style whose name is simplyHeader. D
>
>
> =========>
> Jim Homme,
> Accessibility Consultant, Web developer,
> Bender HighTest Team,
> Bender Consulting Services, inc.
> 412-787-8567,
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ><mailto:jhomme@
> benderconsult.com>,
> http://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-
> accessible-technology-solutions
>
> On Aug 14, 2016, at 4:30 PM, L Snider < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto:lsni
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ><mailto:lsni
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >>> wrote:
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> So you mean titles and not headings from the styling menu in Word?
>
> Cheers
>
> Lisa
>
> On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Jim Homme < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <
> mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ><
> mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >> wrote:
>
> Hi Lisa,
>
> I would not give the company name a heading style. Heading styles are
> meant for section headings. You might want to use the Heading style.
> That's different from heading with a number.
>
>
> =========>
> Jim Homme,
> Accessibility Consultant, Web developer,
> Bender HighTest Team,
> Bender Consulting Services, inc.
> 412-787-8567,
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ><mailto:jhomme@
> benderconsult.com><mailto:jhomme@
> benderconsult.com<http://benderconsult.com>;>,
> http://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-
> accessible-technology-solutions
>
> On Aug 14, 2016, at 3:52 PM, L Snider < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto:lsni
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ><mailto:lsni
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >><mailto:lsni
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ><mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >>> wrote:
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> The issue that I was musing about was in the letter, where if you are lucky
> you have a 'RE' section, which could be given a heading (and rarely do you
> have a company name up top to give a heading to)... If you don't even have
> the 'RE:' then the address could be styled, but there would be no other
> headings as letters don't usually have sections. That is the issue I have
> been working on the most, and I am wondering what others do with letters
> that don't have anything major to make into a heading.
>
> Contracts are different, because they usually have good things to use
> headings on-except at the top where you have the 'X and X go into a
> contract'. That is way too long usually for an H1, and with legal you can't
> change the way it is structured.
>
> I wish they were more like reports, but almost always they aren't!
>
> Cheers
>
> Lisa
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Jim Homme < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <
> mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ><
> mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ><
> mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >> wrote:
>
> Hi Lisa,
> FFor the sake of argument, let me assume Microsoft Word.
>
> The title of the document would use the Title style.
>
> I would then apply headings using the Heading 1 style for each major
> section, and then use Heading 2 through the necessary level of heading
> style. If you think the document will ever be converted to the web, avoid
> levels 7 and higher.
>
> Once you have the headings in place, go back through and use the
> multi-level list, rather than typing in the numbers by hand. Word has
> numbering schemes for various document types.
>
> Then, if your document requires a table of contents, put your curser where
> you want it to go, right click or SHIfT+F10, and choose the automatic table
> of contents entry.
>
> For the addressing part of the letter, I think there is the Address style,
> but I'd have to check that.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Jim
>
>
> =========>
> Jim Homme,
> Accessibility Consultant, Web developer,
> Bender HighTest Team,
> Bender Consulting Services, inc.
> 412-787-8567,
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ><mailto:jhomme@
> benderconsult.com><mailto:jhomme@
> benderconsult.com<http://benderconsult.com>;><mailto:jhomme@
> benderconsult.com<http://benderconsult.com>;<http://benderconsult.com>;>,
> http://www.benderconsult.com/our%20services/hightest-
> accessible-technology-solutions
>
> On Aug 14, 2016, at 3:04 PM, L Snider < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto:lsni
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ><mailto:lsni
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> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >>> wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I have been thinking about this one for a while, and wanted to hear how you
> approach this one.
>
> To make reports, and the like, accessible is pretty straightforward.
> However, when working with a letter, do you use styled headings?
>
> In some letters, I can see making the RE: line a heading (H2) and maybe
> even the company name if it is in text at the top (H1). Do you do this?
>
> Also for contracts, I can see the sub titles in a contract styled into
> headings, but most of them have the 'this is a contract between X and X',
> do you make that into an H1? Do you do this?
>
> Thanks in advance! Curious to know what everyone does for these kinds of
> docs!
>
> Cheers
>
> Lisa
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From: whitneyq
Date: Sun, Aug 21 2016 1:53PM
Subject: Re: Letter accessibility
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Aren't you conflating display characteristics with semantic tagging?
The styling you suggest is rather old fashioned. And not necessarily eye-catching.
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For the company name, I would:
Center it
Bold it
Set it at 18PT font
You want the company name to be an eye catcher.
Use your heading 1 for an important section in your table of contents. For example,
H1: Accessibility Audit
H2: WCAG Evaluation
H3: Large View
H3: Small view
H2: Usability Report
H3: Large View
H3: Small View
As I always suggest, there should not be a need for more than 4 levels unless you are dealing with a heavily nested scientific table of contents.