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From: crkavana@cmhc-schl.gc.ca
Date: Fri, Feb 03 2017 3:55PM
Subject: Accessible videos
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If you provide a descriptive transcript for a video, do you need an audio description as well? Why? NOTICE: This email message, including any attachments, is confidential, subject to copyright and may be privileged. Any unauthorized use or disclosure is prohibited.
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From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Sat, Feb 04 2017 7:23AM
Subject: Re: Accessible videos
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WCAG 1.2.5 (level AA) says so. For me, it is the one that I am least
comfortable with.
Firstly, very few online video players offer the ability to play a
separate audio track, such as would be necessary for audio description
of videos (the other solution is to create a separate video with audio
description).
Secondly, most online type videos (instructional videos, promo videos
etc.) are such that you don't need an audio description if you have a
text transcript and can hear the dialog.
You need audio description for enjoying full length movies (I mean,
just try to watch "Castaway" or "Lost Highway" without seeing it, even
a text transcript would not be sufficient"), but I don't think audio
description does much for a 2-minute video. In fact movies promotional
or informational videos are so packed with dialog that an audio
description would get in the way. For that a transcript is much better
(users can read it, stop it, pause the video if they are confused).
Thirdly, you can construct an audio description of the video by
synching the transcript with the video using ARIA live regions.
See a demo (well, hear a demo, you need a screen reader) at:
http://ncamftp.wgbh.org/ibm/dvs/sintel-clip.html
(I find this one really awesome!)
Bottomline, yes, it would be ideal to make this happen, but given the
limited benefit and technical complexity, I would put it at the bottom
of my accessibility to-do list, not unless you feel the video is the
absolute core of your message or business, and audio description
delivers something crucial that a transcript does not.
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> If you provide a descriptive transcript for a video, do you need an audio
> description as well? Why? NOTICE: This email message, including any
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From: bobby accessibility
Date: Sat, Feb 04 2017 1:40AM
Subject: Re: Accessible videos
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Hi,
Providing Transcript is not sufficient to explain the video, it is helpful
for a non sighted users to enjoy the video while listening through audio
description. I have read one nice article "Techniques for Creating
Accessible Multimedia" published by some Accessibility Expert Sunil
Dangwal. In this article he explained everything very nicely he gave very
nice example of audio description (after clicking the audio description
link redirect you to video) Here is the link:
https://www.techwell.com/techwell-insights/2017/01/techniques-creating-accessible-multimedia
Hope this helps.
cheers,
Bob
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> If you provide a descriptive transcript for a video, do you need an audio
> description as well? Why? NOTICE: This email message, including any
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From: KP
Date: Sat, Feb 04 2017 12:37PM
Subject: Re: Accessible videos
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The OP suggested descriptive transcript which would be suitable without AD. Purely the spoken words would nit be enough. My favourite example is to use the shower scene from Psycho. 5 minutes of zero speech but hugely important action. A transcript would not be enough but AD and/or descriptive text could be if well written.
Kevin
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> On 4/02/2017, at 9:40 PM, bobby accessibility < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Providing Transcript is not sufficient to explain the video, it is helpful
> for a non sighted users to enjoy the video while listening through audio
> description. I have read one nice article "Techniques for Creating
> Accessible Multimedia" published by some Accessibility Expert Sunil
> Dangwal. In this article he explained everything very nicely he gave very
> nice example of audio description (after clicking the audio description
> link redirect you to video) Here is the link:
> https://www.techwell.com/techwell-insights/2017/01/techniques-creating-accessible-multimedia
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> cheers,
> Bob
>
>> On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 4:25 AM, < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>>
>> If you provide a descriptive transcript for a video, do you need an audio
>> description as well? Why? NOTICE: This email message, including any
>> attachments, is confidential, subject to copyright and may be privileged.
>> Any unauthorized use or disclosure is prohibited.
>> AVIS: Le présent message, incluant toute pièce jointe, est confidentiel,
>> protégé par des droits d'auteur et peut contenir des renseignements
>> privilégiés. L'utilisation ou la communication non autorisée de ces
>> renseignements est interdite.
>> >> >> >> >>
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From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Sat, Feb 04 2017 12:50PM
Subject: Re: Accessible videos
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Yeah, it does depend on the type of video and the quaity of the transcripts.
I was a huge fan of the Friends transcripts:
http://www.livesinabox.com/friends/season1/101pilot.htm
I definitely enjoyed the series even more after discovering them.
On 2/4/17, KP < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> The OP suggested descriptive transcript which would be suitable without AD.
> Purely the spoken words would nit be enough. My favourite example is to use
> the shower scene from Psycho. 5 minutes of zero speech but hugely important
> action. A transcript would not be enough but AD and/or descriptive text
> could be if well written.
>
> Kevin
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 4/02/2017, at 9:40 PM, bobby accessibility
>> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Providing Transcript is not sufficient to explain the video, it is helpful
>> for a non sighted users to enjoy the video while listening through audio
>> description. I have read one nice article "Techniques for Creating
>> Accessible Multimedia" published by some Accessibility Expert Sunil
>> Dangwal. In this article he explained everything very nicely he gave very
>> nice example of audio description (after clicking the audio description
>> link redirect you to video) Here is the link:
>> https://www.techwell.com/techwell-insights/2017/01/techniques-creating-accessible-multimedia
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> cheers,
>> Bob
>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 4:25 AM, < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>>>
>>> If you provide a descriptive transcript for a video, do you need an audio
>>> description as well? Why? NOTICE: This email message, including any
>>> attachments, is confidential, subject to copyright and may be privileged.
>>> Any unauthorized use or disclosure is prohibited.
>>> AVIS: Le présent message, incluant toute pièce jointe, est confidentiel,
>>> protégé par des droits d'auteur et peut contenir des renseignements
>>> privilégiés. L'utilisation ou la communication non autorisée de ces
>>> renseignements est interdite.
>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>
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