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From: Kolitsky, Michael A PHD
Date: Tue, Jun 12 2018 12:39PM
Subject: WebAIM-Forum Digest, Vol 159, Issue 11
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I think I may have sent Sarah the following two web pages, one of which looks at a 3D print of a bar graph and compares it to how the same graph would appear designed as a table for a screen reader. Note that the bar graph is laid atop an iPad Pro in a 3D printed holder so that a finger touch now produces the information for the bar graph labels and bar graph results. This approach provides access according to the user's choice rather than how one would have to go through a table in linear fashion. Check out http://www.nextgenemedia.com/3DprintComplexGraphics.html to see more of what I mean.

The other web address shows how one might take the images in an Open Education Resource such as the OpenStax Anatomy and Physiology I etext and adds links below each graphic where a raised line graphic made into a template can be laid atop an iPad and then when touching the raised line graphic, audio can be generated speaking the name of the structure or region being touched. Compare this to the alt text for those images which simply lists all the names for the structures or regions which doesn't help at all in pointing out to a screen reader the link between the alt text names and where they are located on the drawing of the human male or female. This link is at http://www.nextgenemedia.com/Anatomical%20Terminology%20-%20Anatomy%20&;%20Physiology%20-%20OpenStax%20CNX.html .

Hope this helps

Mike

Michael Kolitsky, Ph.D.
Online Adjunct Professor
Biological Sciences
The University of Texas at El Paso
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From: Pyatt, Elizabeth J
Date: Mon, Jun 18 2018 6:32AM
Subject: Re: WebAIM-Forum Digest, Vol 159, Issue 15
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PBS shows may be a good source. WGBH does audio description for commercial TV, but they may do science shows like Nova.
If you contact them, they may have examples for universities.

Hope this helps.
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> 1. Re: Examples of Audio-Description (Emily Ogle)
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> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Examples of Audio-Description
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> Elsevier, a medical publishing company, has an animation collection with growing audio description collection as well. Ted Gies may be able to provide some examples, = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = .
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> Additionally, DCMP's description key is structured for instructional description. Www.dcmp.org.
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>> Several of our - the National Institutes of Health's - organizations are working on improving their multimedia accessibility, specifically around audio-descriptions. We've been finding a great many examples of videos and television shows with AD, but no examples of instructional or informational videos, multimedia, television programs, or films.
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>> We are currently researching http://www.acb.org/adp/streaming.html and http://www.acb.org/adp/ad.html. Netflix apparently has a list of programs which have AD (http://www.netflix.com/browse/audio-description) but it's password protected – and I don't know if their catalog/catalogue has programs of the type we're seeking to study.
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>> Any links to AD examples of informational, instructional, documentary, non ‘entertainment'-type programs would be greatly appreciated!
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From: Edy kok
Date: Sun, Jun 24 2018 5:58AM
Subject: Re: WebAIM-Forum Digest, Vol 159, Issue 23
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> 1. Re: PDF with multiple References to same Note (Philip Kiff)
> 2. Re: Accessible spreadsheets (Karlen Communications)
> 3. Re: [EXTERNAL] Navigation in application mode (glen walker)
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> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 15:05:33 -0400
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] PDF with multiple References to same Note
> I've run into this issue a number of time before, Alan, and don't have a
> good solution.
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> If forced to choose, I would go with your option (2), and just ignore
> later instances of the footnote.
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> In cases where multiple instances of the same footnote appear within a
> single table, I have instead placed the note after the end of the entire
> table. Likewise if multiple instances of the same footnote appear within
> a single paragraph.
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> But in your case, you have multiple references in multiple paragraphs,
> and I don't know what the best practice is for that.
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> I will note that it is possible to edit a PDF and add content for screen
> readers only without affecting the visual appearance. To do this, you
> simply add white text (or use whatever colour matches the background
> colour). Then you tag the content as text. Then edit the content order
> and tag tree to place the tag/container into the correct location
> directly after each additional instance of the reference number. Using
> this technique, you could add multiple copies of the same footnote
> without affecting the visual display. But it seems obvious to me that
> this is a "hacky" and therefore provisional method of dealing with the
> issue, and not one that should be a recommended practice.
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> Phil.
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> Philip Kiff
> D4K Communications
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> On 2018-06-22 9:16 AM, Alan Zaitchik wrote:
> > Any suggestions on the best practice for the following case?
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> > I have a 2 page PDF where there are multiple references in multiple
> paragraphs to the same footnote. Visually all the footnotes are collected
> at the end of the document. The references are on both pages of the
> document.
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> > The relevant standard for accessibility is the new HHS standard, but I
> cannot place the Note tag after the Reference tags in the reading order --
> and I cannot place each after the paragraphs in which the Reference tag
> occurs since there are multiple such Reference tags for the same Note tag!
> >
> > From
> https://www.hhs.gov/web/section-508/making-files-accessible/pdf-required/index.html
> -- "Move the footnote text in the tag structure to either directly after
> the reference number, or directly after the paragraph that contains the
> reference number."
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> > I have no access to the original InDesign document, and I cannot edit
> the PDF (e.g. by creating multiple instances of the same footnotes) without
> destroying its appearance.
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> > What is the least annoying way to handle this for screen reader users?
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> > (1) Keep it the way it is.
> > (2) Move (in the tag tree) each note tag to directly after the first
> reference to it.
> > (3) Move (in the tag tree) each note tag to directly after the paragraph
> containing the first reference to it.
> > (4) Something else?
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> > Thanks for suggestions!
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> > Alan
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> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 14:53:13 -0400
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible spreadsheets
> I can only address JAWS 18.
>
> There are verbosity settings and keyboard commands to navigate column and
> row titles as well as various areas of the worksheet and workbook. It is
> important that each worksheet have a unique name that is meaningful to the
> content of the worksheet.
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> When I land on a cell with a formula, JAWS will read both the formula and
> the result.
>
> My biggest problem is with JAWS losing focus and just shifting the screen
> slightly up or slightly down without saying anything. Usually the only way
> to get it to work again in Excel is to restart my computer. This is with
> Word 2016 through Office 365 and Windows 10 all updates installed. I've had
> this problem for years so don't even think about it unless I'm
> concentrating
> on remediating a worksheet and suddenly lose speech.
>
> The other huge issue for those of us using screen readers or Text-to-Speech
> tools is not being able to see or visually decode the layout of the data on
> the worksheet. When remediating Excel content I use Word to write a
> "narrative" of how the worksheet is laid out, provide links to main topic
> areas and let the end-user know if there are blank columns and rows used
> for
> visual effect. Most document authors won't let you change the layout of
> their worksheets/workbook. I find a blank cell near the top of the
> worksheet
> and add the text from Word, making it white text on a white background
> makes
> it available to screen readers and Text-to-Speech tools but not visible
> unless focus is in that cell. Same with the links, find a place near the
> top
> of the worksheet, let people know in the narrative that they are there and
> where they start and make them white text on a white background.
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> Microsoft also has some tips on making Excel worksheets accessible:
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> https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Make-your-Excel-spreadsheets-access
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> Cheers, Karen
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