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From: Chanel Carlascio
Date: Fri, Mar 29 2019 12:31PM
Subject: Deque Curriculum
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Hi,
I have a background in accessibility and accommodations - with some limited
training in creating alt format texts. I'm looking to transition into
digital and web accessibility. I am just starting to go through the Deque
training curriculum.
I was interested to see what the professionals on this forum thought of
that curriculum and if you have any pointers on the best way to get started
in freelancing or with an entry level position.
Thanks,
Chanel Carlascio
From: John Foliot
Date: Fri, Mar 29 2019 1:41PM
Subject: Re: Deque Curriculum
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Hi Chanel,
Fully recognizing that anything I say about the Deque curriculum is going
to be biased (because I work at Deque), I can tell you that our curriculum
*has* been adopted by numerous Fortune 500 companies as part of a larger
strategy within their organizations. Over the years we have worked with our
industry partners in an effort to meet their larger, enterprise
requirements, so I'll suggest that the courses are quite good, because (in
part) our clients tell us that.
As far as other pointers towards getting started in freelancing or with an
entry level position, have you investigated the IAAP certification program?
(https://www.accessibilityassociation.org/certification)
As our industry grows, certification is a good measure of suitability for
prospective employers - not the end-all and be-all, but certainly a good
milestone reference when assessing multiple applications for any position.
(IMHO of course)
HTH
JF
On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 1:32 PM Chanel Carlascio < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a background in accessibility and accommodations - with some limited
> training in creating alt format texts. I'm looking to transition into
> digital and web accessibility. I am just starting to go through the Deque
> training curriculum.
>
> I was interested to see what the professionals on this forum thought of
> that curriculum and if you have any pointers on the best way to get started
> in freelancing or with an entry level position.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chanel Carlascio
> > > > >
--
*âJohn Foliot* | Principal Accessibility Strategist | W3C AC Representative
Deque Systems - Accessibility for Good
deque.com
From: Chanel Carlascio
Date: Fri, Mar 29 2019 3:14PM
Subject: Re: Deque Curriculum
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Hi John,
Yes, I am working towards certification. I qualified for the curriculum for
free, and I believe that includes some study towards the certification. I
appreciate the feedback, I think with my previous experience, it won't take
me too long to get through it, and I know that with digital/web
accessibility there will always be something to learn, so I appreciate
being able to be in this forum.
_______________
Chanel Carlascio
Pronoun: She/Her
971-727-9323
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Date: March 29, 2019 at 12:42:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Deque Curriculum
Hi Chanel,
Fully recognizing that anything I say about the Deque curriculum is going
to be biased (because I work at Deque), I can tell you that our curriculum
*has* been adopted by numerous Fortune 500 companies as part of a larger
strategy within their organizations. Over the years we have worked with our
industry partners in an effort to meet their larger, enterprise
requirements, so I'll suggest that the courses are quite good, because (in
part) our clients tell us that.
As far as other pointers towards getting started in freelancing or with an
entry level position, have you investigated the IAAP certification program?
(https://www.accessibilityassociation.org/certification)
As our industry grows, certification is a good measure of suitability for
prospective employers - not the end-all and be-all, but certainly a good
milestone reference when assessing multiple applications for any position.
(IMHO of course)
HTH
JF
On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 1:32 PM Chanel Carlascio < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a background in accessibility and accommodations - with some
limited
> training in creating alt format texts. I'm looking to transition into
> digital and web accessibility. I am just starting to go through the Deque
> training curriculum.
>
> I was interested to see what the professionals on this forum thought of
> that curriculum and if you have any pointers on the best way to get
started
> in freelancing or with an entry level position.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chanel Carlascio
> > > > >
--
*âJohn Foliot* | Principal Accessibility Strategist | W3C AC Representative
Deque Systems - Accessibility for Good
deque.com
From: Chanel Carlascio
Date: Fri, Mar 29 2019 5:14PM
Subject: Re: Deque Curriculum
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One more question, is there one coding language that I should concentrate
on over another? I'd like to learn several but if one is more fundamental
than another, I'd like to start with that. Seems like the importance of
coding languages changes a lot, so any tips on what is the best one for now
is appreciated.
_______________
Chanel Carlascio
Pronoun: She/Her
971-727-9323
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Date: March 29, 2019 at 2:14:16 PM
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Deque Curriculum
Hi John,
Yes, I am working towards certification. I qualified for the curriculum for
free, and I believe that includes some study towards the certification. I
appreciate the feedback, I think with my previous experience, it won't take
me too long to get through it, and I know that with digital/web
accessibility there will always be something to learn, so I appreciate
being able to be in this forum.
_______________
Chanel Carlascio
Pronoun: She/Her
971-727-9323
From: Foliot John < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Reply: Discussion List WebAIM < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
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Date: March 29, 2019 at 12:42:14 PM
To: Discussion List WebAIM < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Deque Curriculum
Hi Chanel,
Fully recognizing that anything I say about the Deque curriculum is going
to be biased (because I work at Deque), I can tell you that our curriculum
*has* been adopted by numerous Fortune 500 companies as part of a larger
strategy within their organizations. Over the years we have worked with our
industry partners in an effort to meet their larger, enterprise
requirements, so I'll suggest that the courses are quite good, because (in
part) our clients tell us that.
As far as other pointers towards getting started in freelancing or with an
entry level position, have you investigated the IAAP certification program?
(https://www.accessibilityassociation.org/certification)
As our industry grows, certification is a good measure of suitability for
prospective employers - not the end-all and be-all, but certainly a good
milestone reference when assessing multiple applications for any position.
(IMHO of course)
HTH
JF
On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 1:32 PM Chanel Carlascio < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a background in accessibility and accommodations - with some
limited
> training in creating alt format texts. I'm looking to transition into
> digital and web accessibility. I am just starting to go through the Deque
> training curriculum.
>
> I was interested to see what the professionals on this forum thought of
> that curriculum and if you have any pointers on the best way to get
started
> in freelancing or with an entry level position.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chanel Carlascio
> > > > >
--
*âJohn Foliot* | Principal Accessibility Strategist | W3C AC Representative
Deque Systems - Accessibility for Good
deque.com
From: Tim Harshbarger
Date: Fri, Mar 29 2019 6:07PM
Subject: Re: Deque Curriculum
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Chanel,
You will want to learn whatever languages are primarily used to develop the type of digital content you are assessing. For example, for web-based digital content you will want to learn HTML, CSS, and javascript.
As far as freelancing goes, it also may be useful to perform a few free assessments for some of your favorite local non-profits as a way to practice and showcase your skills to prospective employers. I know the last time I was looking for a job as an accessibility consultant quite a few employers either asked me to perform an assessment or provide them with samples of my work.
Thanks,
Tim
Tim Harshbarger
Senior Accessibility Consultant
Deque Systems
From: John Foliot
Date: Sat, Mar 30 2019 7:54AM
Subject: Re: Deque Curriculum
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+1 to Tim's suggestions.
If you *really* want to do a deep dive in 'languages', look at
JavaScript+ARIA. Well schooled and sophisticated ARIA practitioners are
still in short supply.
JF
On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 7:07 PM Tim Harshbarger < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
wrote:
> Chanel,
>
> You will want to learn whatever languages are primarily used to develop
> the type of digital content you are assessing. For example, for web-based
> digital content you will want to learn HTML, CSS, and javascript.
>
> As far as freelancing goes, it also may be useful to perform a few free
> assessments for some of your favorite local non-profits as a way to
> practice and showcase your skills to prospective employers. I know the
> last time I was looking for a job as an accessibility consultant quite a
> few employers either asked me to perform an assessment or provide them with
> samples of my work.
>
> Thanks,
> Tim
> Tim Harshbarger
> Senior Accessibility Consultant
> Deque Systems
>
>
From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Sat, Mar 30 2019 8:00AM
Subject: Re: Deque Curriculum
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You may want to get in touch with Knowbility to see if you might be
able to help them.
They host the Open Air competition annually (though you missed it for
this year) where they pair accessibility consultants with small teams
working on fixes for non profit organizations. Access U, Knowbility's
annual event was my favorite accessibility learning moment when I was
getting started. I know traveling to Austin and attending is not free,
but if you can afford it it is a great event to learn and be inspired.
The Deque curriculum is solid, I use it for my team (almost 20 of our
testers and front end developers have IAAP certifications).
On 3/30/19, John Foliot < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> +1 to Tim's suggestions.
>
> If you *really* want to do a deep dive in 'languages', look at
> JavaScript+ARIA. Well schooled and sophisticated ARIA practitioners are
> still in short supply.
>
> JF
>
> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 7:07 PM Tim Harshbarger < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
> wrote:
>
>> Chanel,
>>
>> You will want to learn whatever languages are primarily used to develop
>> the type of digital content you are assessing. For example, for web-based
>> digital content you will want to learn HTML, CSS, and javascript.
>>
>> As far as freelancing goes, it also may be useful to perform a few free
>> assessments for some of your favorite local non-profits as a way to
>> practice and showcase your skills to prospective employers. I know the
>> last time I was looking for a job as an accessibility consultant quite a
>> few employers either asked me to perform an assessment or provide them
>> with
>> samples of my work.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tim
>> Tim Harshbarger
>> Senior Accessibility Consultant
>> Deque Systems
>>
>>
From: Mohith BP
Date: Sun, Mar 31 2019 7:17AM
Subject: Re: Deque Curriculum
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hi Chanel,
Deque curriculum is nice and well structured.
Thanks & Regards,
Mohith B. P.
Ensure you go through the examples provided and try to build your own
components
On 3/30/19, Chanel Carlascio < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a background in accessibility and accommodations - with some limited
> training in creating alt format texts. I'm looking to transition into
> digital and web accessibility. I am just starting to go through the Deque
> training curriculum.
>
> I was interested to see what the professionals on this forum thought of
> that curriculum and if you have any pointers on the best way to get started
> in freelancing or with an entry level position.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chanel Carlascio
> > > > >
From: Abby Kingman
Date: Mon, Apr 01 2019 9:22AM
Subject: Re: Deque Curriculum
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I am not a developer but am poking my way through the Deque curriculum for
CPACC and WAS. I am finding very helpful - it is a very well organized
curriculum, which makes it easier for me to connect pieces together. I'm
not sure how often it is updated. I like it so much I pitched the idea of
having everyone in my company go through at least the CPACC curriculum. I'm
finding that it's very hard to change culture and thinking within a
distributed organization all by myself. Everyone else is already busy and
nobody follows and reads any of the information links I send. My company is
a web development firm, and I think developers often tend to think a11y is
a technical problem they can solve or a content problem that they don't
need to worry about. It's hard to explain to people that it's actually
about having a different way of thinking about what we do. If everyone was
told to just spend two hours a week to work through this curriculum I think
that would be a great help, but unfortunately my idea was dismissed.
--
Abby Kingman, CPACC
Last Call Media