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From: DONALD WONNELL
Date: Tue, Oct 10 2006 1:40PM
Subject: JAWS Screen Reader
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Is there any way to emphasize certain points on a Word document written
in textonly for the visually challenged audience? Don't want to have
unusually burdensome text for people to have to access.

Heard underlining or bold text makes it harder for JAWS to read in some
versions, in others has no effect so there would be no advantage to
using it. At one time all caps was said to be easier for screen readers
to pick up. Please give me any info you may have on this.
Yours,
Don Wonnell
Labor Mkt. Analyst,
Ohio Dept. of Job & Family Services / WFD / LMI


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From: Eoin Campbell
Date: Thu, Oct 12 2006 4:30AM
Subject: Re: JAWS Screen Reader (and Word)
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I'm not a JAWS expert, but I believe the best way to assist
visually-impaired readers of Word documents would be to use the
same principles of applying structured markup (identifying headings,
lists, tables, etc.) as is recommended for HTML.

Word has plenty of built-in styles such as Heading 1, Heading 2, List Bullet,
which can be used to apply structure to a document.
JAWS can use these structure styles to assist readers in navigating around
the document.
Using named styles consistently will also allow users apply their own
preferred Word template (with larger fonts, for example), so that they can
view it in a way that suits them.


"DONALD WONNELL" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Is there any way to emphasize certain points on a Word document written
> in textonly for the visually challenged audience? Don't want to have
> unusually burdensome text for people to have to access.
>
> Heard underlining or bold text makes it harder for JAWS to read in some
> versions, in others has no effect so there would be no advantage to
> using it. At one time all caps was said to be easier for screen readers
> to pick up. Please give me any info you may have on this.


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From: Joshue O Connor
Date: Thu, Oct 12 2006 5:00AM
Subject: Re: JAWS Screen Reader (and Word)
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> I believe the best way to assist
> visually-impaired readers of Word documents would be to use the
> same principles of applying structured markup (identifying headings,
> lists, tables, etc.) as is recommended for HTML.

Eoin is right. Also if structural documents are created in Word they can
then
be exported (problems with MS HTML not withstanding) as fairly
accessible HTML docs.

Josh

Eoin Campbell wrote:
> I'm not a JAWS expert, but I believe the best way to assist
> visually-impaired readers of Word documents would be to use the
> same principles of applying structured markup (identifying headings,
> lists, tables, etc.) as is recommended for HTML.
>
> Word has plenty of built-in styles such as Heading 1, Heading 2, List Bullet,
> which can be used to apply structure to a document.
> JAWS can use these structure styles to assist readers in navigating around
> the document.
> Using named styles consistently will also allow users apply their own
> preferred Word template (with larger fonts, for example), so that they can
> view it in a way that suits them.
>
>
> "DONALD WONNELL" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
>> Is there any way to emphasize certain points on a Word document written
>> in textonly for the visually challenged audience? Don't want to have
>> unusually burdensome text for people to have to access.
>>
>> Heard underlining or bold text makes it harder for JAWS to read in some
>> versions, in others has no effect so there would be no advantage to
>> using it. At one time all caps was said to be easier for screen readers
>> to pick up. Please give me any info you may have on this.
>
>


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From: Jon Gunderson
Date: Thu, Oct 12 2006 6:20AM
Subject: Re: JAWS Screen Reader (and Word)
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The Illinois Accessible Web Publishing WIzard is designed to create accessible web versions of Microsoft Office documents.

http://www.accessiblewizards.uiuc.edu

Jon


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>Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:32:53 +0100
>From: Joshue O Connor < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>Subject: Re: [WebAIM] JAWS Screen Reader (and Word)
>To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>
>
>> I believe the best way to assist
>> visually-impaired readers of Word documents would be to use the
>> same principles of applying structured markup (identifying headings,
>> lists, tables, etc.) as is recommended for HTML.
>
>Eoin is right. Also if structural documents are created in Word they can
>then
>be exported (problems with MS HTML not withstanding) as fairly
>accessible HTML docs.
>
>Josh
>
>Eoin Campbell wrote:
>> I'm not a JAWS expert, but I believe the best way to assist
>> visually-impaired readers of Word documents would be to use the
>> same principles of applying structured markup (identifying headings,
>> lists, tables, etc.) as is recommended for HTML.
>>
>> Word has plenty of built-in styles such as Heading 1, Heading 2, List Bullet,
>> which can be used to apply structure to a document.
>> JAWS can use these structure styles to assist readers in navigating around
>> the document.
>> Using named styles consistently will also allow users apply their own
>> preferred Word template (with larger fonts, for example), so that they can
>> view it in a way that suits them.
>>
>>
>> "DONALD WONNELL" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>>
>>> Is there any way to emphasize certain points on a Word document written
>>> in textonly for the visually challenged audience? Don't want to have
>>> unusually burdensome text for people to have to access.
>>>
>>> Heard underlining or bold text makes it harder for JAWS to read in some
>>> versions, in others has no effect so there would be no advantage to
>>> using it. At one time all caps was said to be easier for screen readers
>>> to pick up. Please give me any info you may have on this.
>>
>>
>
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From: Joshue O Connor
Date: Thu, Oct 12 2006 3:00PM
Subject: Re: JAWS Screen Reader (and Word)
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Hi Rebecca,

>> >> Just bear in mind that only the very latest versions of screen
readers will
>> >> be able to pick up structure in a Word document.

Yes thats right. Its only since version 7 (JAWS) that it will recognise
a Word documents structure. Thanks for the reminder, as it points out an
important lesson in all of
this, that many can be left behind using older versions of UA's, so no
assumptions should be made.

Having said that, it is a step in the right direction.

Josh

Rebecca Ballard (Without a Mouse) wrote:
> > Just bear in mind that only the very latest versions of screen
readers will
> > be able to pick up structure in a Word document.
> >
> >
> > Rebecca
> >
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From: smithj7
Date: Fri, Oct 13 2006 12:10AM
Subject: Re: JAWS Screen Reader
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Many of the employees in my company that use speech (like JAWS) turns off
their punctuation so they can read more quickly. I think of underlines or
bolds like color. I ensure importance with text.
Examples:
NOTE: This is important for such and such. Not complying can cause you to
lose your job. <grinning wickedly>
Well okay, I don't say folks will lose their jobs, but I try to stress
importance using the text. In large documents, I might establish a system
along with a graphic using something like a graphic of a key with the text
Key Point. I might bold or use color as well. We have many visually
learners.
Hope this helps.
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From: "DONALD WONNELL" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
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Subject: [WebAIM] JAWS Screen Reader


> Is there any way to emphasize certain points on a Word document written
> in textonly for the visually challenged audience? Don't want to have
> unusually burdensome text for people to have to access.
>
> Heard underlining or bold text makes it harder for JAWS to read in some
> versions, in others has no effect so there would be no advantage to
> using it. At one time all caps was said to be easier for screen readers
> to pick up. Please give me any info you may have on this.
> Yours,
> Don Wonnell
> Labor Mkt. Analyst,
> Ohio Dept. of Job & Family Services / WFD / LMI
>
>
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From: Emma Duke-Williams
Date: Mon, Oct 16 2006 2:20AM
Subject: Re: JAWS Screen Reader (and Word)
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Using proper headings etc., (rather than just making the text bigger)
is also invaluable dyslexic students (or anyone for that matter) who
wants to see an outline of the sections.
(And it makes generating a table of contents much easier).

Emma

On 10/12/06, Joshue O Connor < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Hi Rebecca,
>
> >> >> Just bear in mind that only the very latest versions of screen
> readers will
> >> >> be able to pick up structure in a Word document.
>
> Yes thats right. Its only since version 7 (JAWS) that it will recognise
> a Word documents structure. Thanks for the reminder, as it points out an
> important lesson in all of
> this, that many can be left behind using older versions of UA's, so no
> assumptions should be made.
>
> Having said that, it is a step in the right direction.
>
> Josh
>
> Rebecca Ballard (Without a Mouse) wrote:
> > > Just bear in mind that only the very latest versions of screen
> readers will
> > > be able to pick up structure in a Word document.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rebecca
> > >
> > > Sign up for regular tips and tricks at www.withoutamouse.com/newsletter.
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> > > Thinking about Broadband? Check out www.withoutamouse.com/broadband.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >

From: ********
Date: Mon, Oct 16 2006 6:00PM
Subject: Re: JAWS Screen Reader (and Word)
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You are right! And it also makes it much quicker to make a regular print document, a large print document.