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From: Ady Stokes
Date: Wed, Feb 03 2021 12:21PM
Subject: Accessible Online Whiteboard
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Hello all,
I like to use an online white board for my training but am yet to find anything even close to accessible. Even keyboard compliance for navigation seems to be beyond them. So far I've looked at Jamboard, Mural, NoteBoardApp, Miro, awwapp.com <http://awwapp.com/>; with no luck at all.

Any help or alternative suggestions would be much appreciated. Thank you.


Kind regards, Ady

Test Engineer and Accessibility Specialist
= EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
07766185414

From: Sean Murphy
Date: Wed, Feb 03 2021 2:16PM
Subject: Re: Accessible Online Whiteboard
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Hi,

Try Microsoft whiteboard it does have keyboard support but not sure about screen reader of support.

My experience is the part

> On 4 Feb 2021, at 6:21 am, Ady Stokes < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Hello all,
> I like to use an online white board for my training but am yet to find anything even close to accessible. Even keyboard compliance for navigation seems to be beyond them. So far I've looked at Jamboard, Mural, NoteBoardApp, Miro, awwapp.com <http://awwapp.com/>; with no luck at all.
>
> Any help or alternative suggestions would be much appreciated. Thank you.
>
>
> Kind regards, Ady
>
> Test Engineer and Accessibility Specialist
> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> 07766185414
>
>
>
>
> > > >

From: Brandon Keith Biggs
Date: Wed, Feb 03 2021 2:24PM
Subject: Re: Accessible Online Whiteboard
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Hello Ady,
What are you trying to do with the whiteboard?
For quick brainstorms, I use Google Sheets, for document writing and
note-taking, I use Google Docs. For coding, I use:
http://collabedit.com/
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;


On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 1:17 PM Sean Murphy < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Try Microsoft whiteboard it does have keyboard support but not sure about
> screen reader of support.
>
> My experience is the part
>
> > On 4 Feb 2021, at 6:21 am, Ady Stokes < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >
> > Hello all,
> > I like to use an online white board for my training but am yet to find
> anything even close to accessible. Even keyboard compliance for navigation
> seems to be beyond them. So far I've looked at Jamboard, Mural,
> NoteBoardApp, Miro, awwapp.com <http://awwapp.com/>; with no luck at all.
> >
> > Any help or alternative suggestions would be much appreciated. Thank
> you.
> >
> >
> > Kind regards, Ady
> >
> > Test Engineer and Accessibility Specialist
> > = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > 07766185414
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >

From: Larges, Lisa (DEED)
Date: Thu, Feb 04 2021 7:37AM
Subject: Re: Accessible Online Whiteboard
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I am on a team using Miro. They say that they are working on accessibility for their next release. I'd recommend getting in touch with them -- if nothing else it's good for them to know that there are consumers pushing for this.

Lisa Larges | Outreach Coordinator
Minnesota Department of Employment and Economic Development
State Services for the Blind
2200 University Ave West, Suite 240, St. Paul MN 55114
Direct: 651-539-2300
Web | Twitter | Facebook


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Hi,

Try Microsoft whiteboard it does have keyboard support but not sure about screen reader of support.

My experience is the part

> On 4 Feb 2021, at 6:21 am, Ady Stokes < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Hello all,
> I like to use an online white board for my training but am yet to find anything even close to accessible. Even keyboard compliance for navigation seems to be beyond them. So far I've looked at Jamboard, Mural, NoteBoardApp, Miro, awwapp.com <https://gcc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fawwapp.com%2F&amp;data%7C01%7Clisa.larges%40state.mn.us%7C11d783a1a1a94749eb3b08d8c8890a5b%7Ceb14b04624c445198f26b89c2159828c%7C0%7C0%7C637479838203651961%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&amp;sdata=ruhU3mC2AewsjmCusyoJwQG3%2BLi%2BOnHqpi5Gl1m7Cvs%3D&amp;reserved=0> with no luck at all.
>
> Any help or alternative suggestions would be much appreciated. Thank you.
>
>
> Kind regards, Ady
>
> Test Engineer and Accessibility Specialist = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> 07766185414
>
>
>
>
> > > >

From: Murphy, Sean
Date: Thu, Feb 11 2021 11:06PM
Subject: Re: Accessible Online Whiteboard
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Lisa

Do you have a contact for Miro? As I would love to see the beta version of this product for accessibility. As the last time I used Miro. It was fully in-a11y to a screen reader user.

Regards
Sean Murphy

Sean Murphy | Senior Digital System specialist (Accessibility)
Telstra Digital Channels | Digital Systems
Mobile: 0405 129 739 | Desk: (02) 9866-7917
Digital Systems Launch Page
Accessibility Single source of Truth

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From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of Larges, Lisa (DEED)
Sent: Friday, 5 February 2021 1:37 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible Online Whiteboard

[External Email] This email was sent from outside the organisation – be cautious, particularly with links and attachments.

I am on a team using Miro. They say that they are working on accessibility for their next release. I'd recommend getting in touch with them -- if nothing else it's good for them to know that there are consumers pushing for this.

Lisa Larges | Outreach Coordinator
Minnesota Department of Employment and Economic Development State Services for the Blind
2200 University Ave West, Suite 240, St. Paul MN 55114
Direct: 651-539-2300
Web | Twitter | Facebook


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Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2021 3:17 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible Online Whiteboard

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Hi,

Try Microsoft whiteboard it does have keyboard support but not sure about screen reader of support.

My experience is the part

> On 4 Feb 2021, at 6:21 am, Ady Stokes < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Hello all,
> I like to use an online white board for my training but am yet to find anything even close to accessible. Even keyboard compliance for navigation seems to be beyond them. So far I've looked at Jamboard, Mural, NoteBoardApp, Miro, awwapp.com <https://gcc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fawwapp.com%2F&amp;data%7C01%7Clisa.larges%40state.mn.us%7C11d783a1a1a94749eb3b08d8c8890a5b%7Ceb14b04624c445198f26b89c2159828c%7C0%7C0%7C637479838203651961%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&amp;sdata=ruhU3mC2AewsjmCusyoJwQG3%2BLi%2BOnHqpi5Gl1m7Cvs%3D&amp;reserved=0> with no luck at all.
>
> Any help or alternative suggestions would be much appreciated. Thank you.
>
>
> Kind regards, Ady
>
> Test Engineer and Accessibility Specialist = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> 07766185414
>
>
>
>
> > > https://gcc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flist.
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From: Joe Humbert (A11y)
Date: Fri, Feb 12 2021 5:29AM
Subject: Re: Accessible Online Whiteboard
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HI Lisa,

I am working with a company that uses Miro and there are multiple screen reader users on staff and it is still 90%+ inaccessible to them. I know for sure the visual content on the different bords are completely inaccessible to those users.

Thankx,
Joe Humbert, CPWA
Accessibility Champion
Android & iOS Accessibility Novice
Twitter: @joehumbert

-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of Murphy, Sean
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 1:06 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible Online Whiteboard

Lisa

Do you have a contact for Miro? As I would love to see the beta version of this product for accessibility. As the last time I used Miro. It was fully in-a11y to a screen reader user.

Regards
Sean Murphy

Sean Murphy | Senior Digital System specialist (Accessibility) Telstra Digital Channels | Digital Systems
Mobile: 0405 129 739 | Desk: (02) 9866-7917 Digital Systems Launch Page Accessibility Single source of Truth

-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of Larges, Lisa (DEED)
Sent: Friday, 5 February 2021 1:37 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible Online Whiteboard

[External Email] This email was sent from outside the organisation – be cautious, particularly with links and attachments.

I am on a team using Miro. They say that they are working on accessibility for their next release. I'd recommend getting in touch with them -- if nothing else it's good for them to know that there are consumers pushing for this.

Lisa Larges | Outreach Coordinator
Minnesota Department of Employment and Economic Development State Services for the Blind
2200 University Ave West, Suite 240, St. Paul MN 55114
Direct: 651-539-2300
Web | Twitter | Facebook


-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of Sean Murphy
Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2021 3:17 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible Online Whiteboard

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Hi,

Try Microsoft whiteboard it does have keyboard support but not sure about screen reader of support.

My experience is the part

> On 4 Feb 2021, at 6:21 am, Ady Stokes < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Hello all,
> I like to use an online white board for my training but am yet to find anything even close to accessible. Even keyboard compliance for navigation seems to be beyond them. So far I've looked at Jamboard, Mural, NoteBoardApp, Miro, awwapp.com <https://gcc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fawwapp.com%2F&amp;data%7C01%7Clisa.larges%40state.mn.us%7C11d783a1a1a94749eb3b08d8c8890a5b%7Ceb14b04624c445198f26b89c2159828c%7C0%7C0%7C637479838203651961%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&amp;sdata=ruhU3mC2AewsjmCusyoJwQG3%2BLi%2BOnHqpi5Gl1m7Cvs%3D&amp;reserved=0> with no luck at all.
>
> Any help or alternative suggestions would be much appreciated. Thank you.
>
>
> Kind regards, Ady
>
> Test Engineer and Accessibility Specialist = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> 07766185414
>
>
>
>
> > > https://gcc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flist.
> webaim.org%2F&amp;data%7C01%7Clisa.larges%40state.mn.us%7C11d783a1a
> 1a94749eb3b08d8c8890a5b%7Ceb14b04624c445198f26b89c2159828c%7C0%7C0%7C6
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From: Larges, Lisa (DEED)
Date: Fri, Feb 12 2021 6:02AM
Subject: Re: Accessible Online Whiteboard
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Yes, this is absolutely right. It is not at all accessible.
My point is that they are saying that they are working on accessibility for an upcoming rollout. I think we should keep the friendly pressure on them to make sure that they really elevate this to a high priority and make it happen.

Lisa Larges | Outreach Coordinator
Minnesota Department of Employment and Economic Development
State Services for the Blind
2200 University Ave West, Suite 240, St. Paul MN 55114
Direct: 651-539-2300
Web | Twitter | Facebook


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From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of Joe Humbert (A11y)
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 6:29 AM
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List' < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible Online Whiteboard

HI Lisa,

I am working with a company that uses Miro and there are multiple screen reader users on staff and it is still 90%+ inaccessible to them. I know for sure the visual content on the different bords are completely inaccessible to those users.

Thankx,
Joe Humbert, CPWA
Accessibility Champion
Android & iOS Accessibility Novice
Twitter: @joehumbert

-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of Murphy, Sean
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 1:06 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible Online Whiteboard

Lisa

Do you have a contact for Miro? As I would love to see the beta version of this product for accessibility. As the last time I used Miro. It was fully in-a11y to a screen reader user.

Regards
Sean Murphy

Sean Murphy | Senior Digital System specialist (Accessibility) Telstra Digital Channels | Digital Systems
Mobile: 0405 129 739 | Desk: (02) 9866-7917 Digital Systems Launch Page Accessibility Single source of Truth

-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of Larges, Lisa (DEED)
Sent: Friday, 5 February 2021 1:37 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible Online Whiteboard

[External Email] This email was sent from outside the organisation – be cautious, particularly with links and attachments.

I am on a team using Miro. They say that they are working on accessibility for their next release. I'd recommend getting in touch with them -- if nothing else it's good for them to know that there are consumers pushing for this.

Lisa Larges | Outreach Coordinator
Minnesota Department of Employment and Economic Development State Services for the Blind
2200 University Ave West, Suite 240, St. Paul MN 55114
Direct: 651-539-2300
Web | Twitter | Facebook


-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of Sean Murphy
Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2021 3:17 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible Online Whiteboard

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Hi,

Try Microsoft whiteboard it does have keyboard support but not sure about screen reader of support.

My experience is the part

> On 4 Feb 2021, at 6:21 am, Ady Stokes < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Hello all,
> I like to use an online white board for my training but am yet to find anything even close to accessible. Even keyboard compliance for navigation seems to be beyond them. So far I've looked at Jamboard, Mural, NoteBoardApp, Miro, awwapp.com <https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fawwapp.com%2F&amp;data%7C01%7Clisa.larges%40state.mn.us%7C9b75f35027224c7cb47008d8cf51ce1a%7Ceb14b04624c445198f26b89c2159828c%7C0%7C0%7C637487297554524649%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=Up4Z7GLth2lLqE5zIZ%2BULoUTLUqzDjFv18tvd3udjMQ%3D&amp;reserved=0> with no luck at all.
>
> Any help or alternative suggestions would be much appreciated. Thank you.
>
>
> Kind regards, Ady
>
> Test Engineer and Accessibility Specialist = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> 07766185414
>
>
>
>
> > > https://gcc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flist.
> webaim.org%2F&amp;data%7C01%7Clisa.larges%40state.mn.us%7C11d783a1a
> 1a94749eb3b08d8c8890a5b%7Ceb14b04624c445198f26b89c2159828c%7C0%7C0%7C6
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From: Benjamin.Hofer@telekom.de
Date: Mon, Feb 15 2021 12:05AM
Subject: Re: Accessible Online Whiteboard
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Hi,
yes, also in this company we have several screen reader users I am aware of and working with Miro is almost totally impossible, I can tell that from my own experience.
How can we put "friendly pressure" on them? What's the best way to reach out? I tried to get in touch by their contact form, no response so far...
Would be great if we could show them that there are many users in need.
Thanks!

Ben


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Betreff: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible Online Whiteboard

Yes, this is absolutely right. It is not at all accessible.
My point is that they are saying that they are working on accessibility for an upcoming rollout. I think we should keep the friendly pressure on them to make sure that they really elevate this to a high priority and make it happen.

Lisa Larges | Outreach Coordinator
Minnesota Department of Employment and Economic Development State Services for the Blind
2200 University Ave West, Suite 240, St. Paul MN 55114
Direct: 651-539-2300
Web | Twitter | Facebook


-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of Joe Humbert (A11y)
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 6:29 AM
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List' < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible Online Whiteboard

HI Lisa,

I am working with a company that uses Miro and there are multiple screen reader users on staff and it is still 90%+ inaccessible to them. I know for sure the visual content on the different bords are completely inaccessible to those users.

Thankx,
Joe Humbert, CPWA
Accessibility Champion
Android & iOS Accessibility Novice
Twitter: @joehumbert

-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of Murphy, Sean
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 1:06 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible Online Whiteboard

Lisa

Do you have a contact for Miro? As I would love to see the beta version of this product for accessibility. As the last time I used Miro. It was fully in-a11y to a screen reader user.

Regards
Sean Murphy

Sean Murphy | Senior Digital System specialist (Accessibility) Telstra Digital Channels | Digital Systems
Mobile: 0405 129 739 | Desk: (02) 9866-7917 Digital Systems Launch Page Accessibility Single source of Truth

-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of Larges, Lisa (DEED)
Sent: Friday, 5 February 2021 1:37 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible Online Whiteboard

[External Email] This email was sent from outside the organisation – be cautious, particularly with links and attachments.

I am on a team using Miro. They say that they are working on accessibility for their next release. I'd recommend getting in touch with them -- if nothing else it's good for them to know that there are consumers pushing for this.

Lisa Larges | Outreach Coordinator
Minnesota Department of Employment and Economic Development State Services for the Blind
2200 University Ave West, Suite 240, St. Paul MN 55114
Direct: 651-539-2300
Web | Twitter | Facebook


-----Original Message-----
From: WebAIM-Forum < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > On Behalf Of Sean Murphy
Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2021 3:17 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible Online Whiteboard

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Hi,

Try Microsoft whiteboard it does have keyboard support but not sure about screen reader of support.

My experience is the part

> On 4 Feb 2021, at 6:21 am, Ady Stokes < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Hello all,
> I like to use an online white board for my training but am yet to find anything even close to accessible. Even keyboard compliance for navigation seems to be beyond them. So far I've looked at Jamboard, Mural, NoteBoardApp, Miro, awwapp.com <https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fawwapp.com%2F&amp;data%7C01%7Clisa.larges%40state.mn.us%7C9b75f35027224c7cb47008d8cf51ce1a%7Ceb14b04624c445198f26b89c2159828c%7C0%7C0%7C637487297554524649%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=Up4Z7GLth2lLqE5zIZ%2BULoUTLUqzDjFv18tvd3udjMQ%3D&amp;reserved=0> with no luck at all.
>
> Any help or alternative suggestions would be much appreciated. Thank you.
>
>
> Kind regards, Ady
>
> Test Engineer and Accessibility Specialist = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
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From: Larges, Lisa (DEED)
Date: Tue, Feb 16 2021 5:30AM
Subject: Re: Accessible Online Whiteboard
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For Miro, here's the list of their leadership.
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https://miro.com/about/

Lisa Larges | Outreach Coordinator
Minnesota Department of Employment and Economic Development
State Services for the Blind
2200 University Ave West, Suite 240, St. Paul MN 55114
Direct: 651-539-2300
Web | Twitter | Facebook


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Hi,
yes, also in this company we have several screen reader users I am aware of and working with Miro is almost totally impossible, I can tell that from my own experience.
How can we put "friendly pressure" on them? What's the best way to reach out? I tried to get in touch by their contact form, no response so far...
Would be great if we could show them that there are many users in need.
Thanks!

Ben


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+49 951 1336-7029 (Tel.)
+49 170 5429383 (Mobil)
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Yes, this is absolutely right. It is not at all accessible.
My point is that they are saying that they are working on accessibility for an upcoming rollout. I think we should keep the friendly pressure on them to make sure that they really elevate this to a high priority and make it happen.

Lisa Larges | Outreach Coordinator
Minnesota Department of Employment and Economic Development State Services for the Blind
2200 University Ave West, Suite 240, St. Paul MN 55114
Direct: 651-539-2300
Web | Twitter | Facebook


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HI Lisa,

I am working with a company that uses Miro and there are multiple screen reader users on staff and it is still 90%+ inaccessible to them. I know for sure the visual content on the different bords are completely inaccessible to those users.

Thankx,
Joe Humbert, CPWA
Accessibility Champion
Android & iOS Accessibility Novice
Twitter: @joehumbert

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Lisa

Do you have a contact for Miro? As I would love to see the beta version of this product for accessibility. As the last time I used Miro. It was fully in-a11y to a screen reader user.

Regards
Sean Murphy

Sean Murphy | Senior Digital System specialist (Accessibility) Telstra Digital Channels | Digital Systems
Mobile: 0405 129 739 | Desk: (02) 9866-7917 Digital Systems Launch Page Accessibility Single source of Truth

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I am on a team using Miro. They say that they are working on accessibility for their next release. I'd recommend getting in touch with them -- if nothing else it's good for them to know that there are consumers pushing for this.

Lisa Larges | Outreach Coordinator
Minnesota Department of Employment and Economic Development State Services for the Blind
2200 University Ave West, Suite 240, St. Paul MN 55114
Direct: 651-539-2300
Web | Twitter | Facebook


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Hi,

Try Microsoft whiteboard it does have keyboard support but not sure about screen reader of support.

My experience is the part

> On 4 Feb 2021, at 6:21 am, Ady Stokes < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Hello all,
> I like to use an online white board for my training but am yet to find anything even close to accessible. Even keyboard compliance for navigation seems to be beyond them. So far I've looked at Jamboard, Mural, NoteBoardApp, Miro, awwapp.com <https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fawwapp.com%2F&amp;data%7C01%7Clisa.larges%40state.mn.us%7C3b70b6c64df6440a370508d8d1801dfe%7Ceb14b04624c445198f26b89c2159828c%7C0%7C1%7C637489695498517755%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&amp;sdata=s5ULi1SMnhqECLa7ziYDRiyL0IZYXrQPLtLPpBmHPhg%3D&amp;reserved=0> with no luck at all.
>
> Any help or alternative suggestions would be much appreciated. Thank you.
>
>
> Kind regards, Ady
>
> Test Engineer and Accessibility Specialist = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> 07766185414
>
>
>
>
> > > https://gcc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flist.
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