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From: Chris Heilmann
Date: Fri, Oct 22 2004 4:23AM
Subject: WAI Icons. Was: Include default text?
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> Thursday, October 21, 2004, 11:26:01 PM, lists38 wrote:
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>> WAI or W3C icons are a lot
>> about showing off, they don't fulfil any real purpose.
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> I disagree. The icons raise the profile of standards-compliance, and
> make it more of a live issue. That benefits all disabled people.
Standard Compliance with Guidelines? There is no accessibility standard,
both wai and 508 are guidelines, and with good reason, as accessibility is
nothing to tick off or have machine tested.
A lot of our clients (including major blue chip ones) became aware of
these icons and ask about "bobby compliance" instead of being more open to
a real user centered accessibility and usability design. Accessibility is
about human beings, not about a technology.
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Chris Heilmann
http://icant.co.uk/ | http://www.onlinetools.org/
From: Iain Harrison
Date: Fri, Oct 22 2004 6:21AM
Subject: Re: WAI Icons. Was: Include default text?
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Friday, October 22, 2004, 11:11:34 AM, lists38 wrote:
>> I disagree. The icons raise the profile of standards-compliance, and
>> make it more of a live issue. That benefits all disabled people.
> Standard Compliance with Guidelines? There is no accessibility standard,
> both wai and 508 are guidelines, and with good reason, as accessibility is
> nothing to tick off or have machine tested.
That's why I would put w3c standards-compliance icons on, but would
not put icons about accessibility claims onto a web page.
Would you really want to advertise having used something as naff as Bobby?
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Iain
From: Andrew Arch
Date: Fri, Oct 22 2004 8:44AM
Subject: Re: WAI Icons. Was: Include default text?
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Iain is right - you can't comply with guidelines. However, you can conform
to them, and the WAI logo indicates this (and your good intentions).
Even with Standards logos (eg XHTML / CSS) you'd better have a very good QA
system to ensure gremlins don't creep in next week when someone else
modifies the pages.
Andrew
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] WAI Icons. Was: Include default text?
Friday, October 22, 2004, 11:11:34 AM, lists38 wrote:
>> I disagree. The icons raise the profile of standards-compliance, and
>> make it more of a live issue. That benefits all disabled people.
> Standard Compliance with Guidelines? There is no accessibility standard,
> both wai and 508 are guidelines, and with good reason, as accessibility is
> nothing to tick off or have machine tested.
That's why I would put w3c standards-compliance icons on, but would
not put icons about accessibility claims onto a web page.
Would you really want to advertise having used something as naff as Bobby?
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Iain
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