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From: John Goldthwaite
Date: Thu, Feb 07 2002 6:51AM
Subject: PDA's
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PDA's have major accessibility problems. The PDA's based on the Palm OS
don't have a voice synthesis capability so it is hard to make them
accessible to blind users. Even with voice they would be very difficult to
use since they are based on a touch screen interface. Linear auditory
navigation as an alternative would be possible but not practical.

Their use would be very difficult for most and impossible for many
individuals with motor impairments due to the size of the controls and
accuracy required with the touchscreen.

An alternative for blind users is the talking version of the Nokia 9110 -
the Talx9110 or 9110i. http://www.talx.de/index_e.htm These are a
cellphone PDA combinations which have a small keyboard rather than touch
screen. The Talx program only controls the PDA part of the device and is not
active when the clam shell case is closed. Stand alone, the Talx uses a
limited vocabulary of digitized speech. With external synthesizer of
braille display it can be used to read mail and for PDA functions. These
are based on the GEOS operating system so special applications design for
Palm OS or Microsoft Pocket PC would not run on them. There should be an
equivalent device for Microsoft Pocket PC but I haven't seen one yet.
Perhaps someone on the list has.

Other alternatives would be a Braille notetaker or talking notetaker such as
the Braille'n'Speak or Keynote Gold. These have the functions of a PDA and
can upload and download data to PC's.

For motor impairment, the RERC on Wireless Technology has a group working on
IR interfaces in which an Augmentative Communications Device controls a cell
phone, pager or PDA. So far they have just done a pager. However many AAC
devices are laptop PC's themselves so you could just use PC programs
instead.

A laptop is probably the most practical alternative for individuals with
severe motor impairments

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Date: 6 Feb 2002 07:46:53 -0600
From: Paul Balbi < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Subject: PDA's


The BBC is considering the use of PDA devices as a standard product item for
issue to employees where required. I am putting a paper together on the
accessibility and usability issues and if anyone knows of other inputs I
would be grateful.

____________________________________________

Paul Balbi | Disability Computing Manager

BBC Technology | Room 525 | 5th Floor Broadcasting House |Portland Place
London | W1A 1AA
T: +44 (0)20 776 50650 M: +44 (0)776 4354827

http://www.bbctechnology.com



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From: Prof Norm Coombs
Date: Tue, Feb 12 2002 7:46AM
Subject: Re: PDA's
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Dear John:


Thanks for bringing the date discrepancies to my attention. It took a
couple days till I could get them fixed. I believe they are now all
coordinated.

Thanks.

Norm

At 08:51 AM 2/7/02 -0500, you wrote:
>PDA's have major accessibility problems. The PDA's based on the Palm OS
>don't have a voice synthesis capability so it is hard to make them
>accessible to blind users. Even with voice they would be very difficult to
>use since they are based on a touch screen interface. Linear auditory
>navigation as an alternative would be possible but not practical.
>
>Their use would be very difficult for most and impossible for many
>individuals with motor impairments due to the size of the controls and
>accuracy required with the touchscreen.
>
>An alternative for blind users is the talking version of the Nokia 9110 -
>the Talx9110 or 9110i. http://www.talx.de/index_e.htm These are a
>cellphone PDA combinations which have a small keyboard rather than touch
>screen. The Talx program only controls the PDA part of the device and is not
>active when the clam shell case is closed. Stand alone, the Talx uses a
>limited vocabulary of digitized speech. With external synthesizer of
>braille display it can be used to read mail and for PDA functions. These
>are based on the GEOS operating system so special applications design for
>Palm OS or Microsoft Pocket PC would not run on them. There should be an
>equivalent device for Microsoft Pocket PC but I haven't seen one yet.
>Perhaps someone on the list has.
>
>Other alternatives would be a Braille notetaker or talking notetaker such as
>the Braille'n'Speak or Keynote Gold. These have the functions of a PDA and
>can upload and download data to PC's.
>
>For motor impairment, the RERC on Wireless Technology has a group working on
>IR interfaces in which an Augmentative Communications Device controls a cell
>phone, pager or PDA. So far they have just done a pager. However many AAC
>devices are laptop PC's themselves so you could just use PC programs
>instead.
>
>A laptop is probably the most practical alternative for individuals with
>severe motor impairments
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Date: 6 Feb 2002 07:46:53 -0600
>From: Paul Balbi < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
>Subject: PDA's
>
>
>The BBC is considering the use of PDA devices as a standard product item for
>issue to employees where required. I am putting a paper together on the
>accessibility and usability issues and if anyone knows of other inputs I
>would be grateful.
>
>____________________________________________
>
>Paul Balbi | Disability Computing Manager
>
>BBC Technology | Room 525 | 5th Floor Broadcasting House |Portland Place
>London | W1A 1AA
>T: +44 (0)20 776 50650 M: +44 (0)776 4354827
>
>http://www.bbctechnology.com
>
>
>
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Norman Coombs, Ph.D.
Cell (949) 922-5992
Professor Emeritus, Rochester Institute of Technology
http://www.rit.edu/~nrcgsh
CEO, EASI (Equal Access to Software and Information)
http://www.rit.edu/~easi


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