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From: ejp10
Date: Thu, Mar 03 2011 12:27PM
Subject: Re: WebAIM-Forum Digest, Vol 72, Issue 3
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This has been an interesting discussion.

For what it's worth, I think the SUMMARY attribute should be visible to sighted users just as the CAPTION and TH tags (via formatting) are. In my opinion, not only would sighted users benefit from the information, but it would make it more concrete to sighted Web developers.

It looks like you can modify the CSS to make SUMMARY visible, and I may experiment with that (don't want to disable it in JAWS)
http://www.markschenk.com/cssexp/autocaption/autocaption.html

E. Pyatt

On Mar 3, 2011, at 2:00 PM, = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = wrote:

> The fact is (IMO of course), that what @summary did/does for blind users
> it actually does very well. The fact that it didn't do it for _all_
> users, was its death knell. Which to me, is a pity. While philosophies
> like Universal Design are great, I would rather see elements and
> attributes that support some user groups very well, than elements and
> attributes that serve all users poorly.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Elizabeth J. Pyatt, Ph.D.
Instructional Designer

From: Richard R. Hill
Date: Thu, Mar 03 2011 3:03PM
Subject: Re: WebAIM-Forum Digest, Vol 72, Issue 3
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Elizabeth,

The experimenatl site for autcaption is great! Except, most of the
examples unfortunately do not work across browsers (or at all).

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Rick


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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] WebAIM-Forum Digest, Vol 72, Issue 3

This has been an interesting discussion.

For what it's worth, I think the SUMMARY attribute should be visible to
sighted users just as the CAPTION and TH tags (via formatting) are. In my
opinion, not only would sighted users benefit from the information, but it
would make it more concrete to sighted Web developers.

It looks like you can modify the CSS to make SUMMARY visible, and I may
experiment with that (don't want to disable it in JAWS)
http://www.markschenk.com/cssexp/autocaption/autocaption.html

E. Pyatt

On Mar 3, 2011, at 2:00 PM, = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = wrote:

> The fact is (IMO of course), that what @summary did/does for blind users
> it actually does very well. The fact that it didn't do it for _all_
> users, was its death knell. Which to me, is a pity. While philosophies
> like Universal Design are great, I would rather see elements and
> attributes that support some user groups very well, than elements and
> attributes that serve all users poorly.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Elizabeth J. Pyatt, Ph.D.
Instructional Designer

From: Janet Jendron
Date: Wed, Mar 16 2011 12:45PM
Subject: Re: WebAIM-Forum Digest, Vol 72, Issue 15
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1. Re: online web accessibility practice/testing tools
(Owens, Parker)

CNN is one we see used a lot to illustrate problems with
accessibility/usability.

Janet Jendron
SC Assistive Technology Program


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>I would give them popular websites, like amazon, nike, irs.
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>Anyone have an online system to test for accessibility, e.g. throw
>up pages with accessibility errors, and allow students to identify
>the errors and score their answers?
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>Subject: [WebAIM] Privacy vs accessibility,
> has anyone run into this technology issue?
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>Dear all
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>I am dealing with a bit of an odd issue and am curious if anyone has
>dealt with similar.
>The website for Iceland's supreme court hosts a lot of court
>documents, decissions, schedules etc.
>However, in order to protect the parties involved from showing up on
>internet searches, the website (which is written in JSP) requires the
>user to input random numbers displayed in a graphic whenever they want
>to perform any operation on the site (no link will work unless the
>proper numbers are input by the user).
>Obviously this is entirely inaccessible.
>I have suggested using a different captia system, such as asking the
>user questions (what is 3 plus 5), as most other government websites
>in Iceland, which require security, have implemented.
>They claim that this does not provide the same level of security, but
>do not let me talk directly to their technology staff, so I cannot get
>a more technical explanation.
>If anyone has recommendations or experiences of a similar situation,
>and has dealt with it successfully, please let me know, on or
>off-list, as they see appropriate.
>Thanks
>-Birkir
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From: Danishkadah
Date: Mon, Apr 04 2011 12:21PM
Subject: Re: WebAIM-Forum Digest, Vol 73, Issue 5
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Mary

we had Online Accessible Web Development Course in past and we will be
starting same again soon, in last batch we had some screen reader user who
did good job.

contact me at = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =

Muhammad Akram
Founder & Chairman
DANISHKADAH
www.danishkadah.org.pk

Group Leader ALDA - Asia-Pacific
<http://www.danishkadah.org.pk/networks/ALDA-AP/>;
Chairperson International Committee of ALDA Inc. USA
Asst. Director Deaf Friends International (DFI)



From: Mary Stores < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
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> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 09:57:50 -0400
> Subject: [WebAIM] Acccessible web development online course
> Hello,
>
> I am a screen reader user, and I'm interested in taking some online web
> development courses. I have to start off with the basics, because I know
> pretty much nothing about designing my own web page. Would any of you know
> where I could go for an onlien course like this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mary
>

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