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From: Jennifer Sutton
Date: Mon, May 13 2013 5:13PM
Subject: series about Accessible Forms
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Greetings, WebAIM:
I'd like to extend public thanks and recognition to Roger Hudson, and
the many others he acknowledges, for this current "in progress"
series on Accessible Forms.
The first two of a projected five parts have been posted. the links are:
Accessible Forms 1 Labels and identification Web Usability
http://usability.com.au/2013/04/accessible-forms-1-labels-and-identification/
Accessible Forms 2: Required Fields and Extra Information | Web Usability
http://usability.com.au/2013/05/accessible-forms-2-required-fields-and-extra-information/
I encourage those who are interested to continue to follow Roger's
blog for the remainder of the series.
Best,
Jennifer
From: Dave Merrill
Date: Tue, May 14 2013 5:15AM
Subject: Re: series about Accessible Forms
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Looks great, thanks.
Is there any way you know of subscribe to notifications of new posts there?
I didn't see one, but I probably just missed it?
Dave Merrill
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Jennifer Sutton < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >wrote:
> Greetings, WebAIM:
>
> I'd like to extend public thanks and recognition to Roger Hudson, and
> the many others he acknowledges, for this current "in progress"
> series on Accessible Forms.
>
> The first two of a projected five parts have been posted. the links are:
>
> Accessible Forms 1 Labels and identification Web Usability
>
> http://usability.com.au/2013/04/accessible-forms-1-labels-and-identification/
>
> Accessible Forms 2: Required Fields and Extra Information | Web Usability
>
> http://usability.com.au/2013/05/accessible-forms-2-required-fields-and-extra-information/
>
> I encourage those who are interested to continue to follow Roger's
> blog for the remainder of the series.
>
> Best,
> Jennifer
>
> > > >
--
Dave Merrill
From: Jennifer Sutton
Date: Tue, May 14 2013 11:05AM
Subject: Re: series about Accessible Forms
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In case any of the hundreds of people on this list have this same
question, when somebody sends me something from a site that I want to
continue to track, here are the steps I'd take to do so.
1. Look for an RSS feed and subscribe to it. In this case, here it is:
http://usability.com.au/feed/
2. Contact the site author to explore my options if for some reason
RSS is not something I can use. I use RSS all the time, but maybe a
lot of people have forgotten its value.
Here's the Contact page:
http://usability.com.au/contact/
3. Look up the site author, or company, on social media of
choice. Mine is Twitter, so here's Roger on it:
https://twitter.com/rogerhudson
If I hadn't already known that the site is run by Roger, and I
couldn't figure it out by the Contact page, I'd go to the About page
to look for a name or company I could locate on social media:
http://usability.com.au/about/
I took the time to compile this list of approaches in hopes it helps
many on the list to follow up with the resources posted here. There's
plenty that goes on in the Web accessibility arena beyond this list.
At 04:15 AM 5/14/2013, you wrote:
>Looks great, thanks.
>
>Is there any way you know of subscribe to notifications of new posts there?
>I didn't see one, but I probably just missed it?
>
>Dave Merrill
>
>
>On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Jennifer Sutton < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >wrote:
>
> > Greetings, WebAIM:
> >
> > I'd like to extend public thanks and recognition to Roger Hudson, and
> > the many others he acknowledges, for this current "in progress"
> > series on Accessible Forms.
> >
> > The first two of a projected five parts have been posted. the links are:
> >
> > Accessible Forms 1 Labels and identification Web Usability
> >
> >
> http://usability.com.au/2013/04/accessible-forms-1-labels-and-identification/
> >
> > Accessible Forms 2: Required Fields and Extra Information | Web Usability
> >
> >
> http://usability.com.au/2013/05/accessible-forms-2-required-fields-and-extra-information/
> >
> > I encourage those who are interested to continue to follow Roger's
> > blog for the remainder of the series.
> >
> > Best,
> > Jennifer
> >
> > > > > > > >
>
>
>
>--
>Dave Merrill
>>>
From: Len Burns
Date: Tue, May 14 2013 11:31AM
Subject: Re: series about Accessible Forms
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Those are steps I follow as well. For those who find this useful, with
Google Reader shutting down, an excellent RSS app for iDevices is Lire:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/lire-full-text-rss/id550441545?mt=8
The author has been very responsive to requests for accessibility
improvements as well as other valuable features.
-Len
-----Original Message-----
From: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
[mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ] On Behalf Of Jennifer Sutton
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:05 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] series about Accessible Forms
In case any of the hundreds of people on this list have this same
question, when somebody sends me something from a site that I want to
continue to track, here are the steps I'd take to do so.
1. Look for an RSS feed and subscribe to it. In this case, here it is:
http://usability.com.au/feed/
2. Contact the site author to explore my options if for some reason
RSS is not something I can use. I use RSS all the time, but maybe a
lot of people have forgotten its value.
Here's the Contact page:
http://usability.com.au/contact/
3. Look up the site author, or company, on social media of
choice. Mine is Twitter, so here's Roger on it:
https://twitter.com/rogerhudson
If I hadn't already known that the site is run by Roger, and I
couldn't figure it out by the Contact page, I'd go to the About page
to look for a name or company I could locate on social media:
http://usability.com.au/about/
I took the time to compile this list of approaches in hopes it helps
many on the list to follow up with the resources posted here. There's
plenty that goes on in the Web accessibility arena beyond this list.
At 04:15 AM 5/14/2013, you wrote:
>Looks great, thanks.
>
>Is there any way you know of subscribe to notifications of new posts there?
>I didn't see one, but I probably just missed it?
>
>Dave Merrill
>
>
>On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Jennifer Sutton
< = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >wrote:
>
> > Greetings, WebAIM:
> >
> > I'd like to extend public thanks and recognition to Roger Hudson, and
> > the many others he acknowledges, for this current "in progress"
> > series on Accessible Forms.
> >
> > The first two of a projected five parts have been posted. the links
are:
> >
> > Accessible Forms 1 Labels and identification Web Usability
> >
> >
>
http://usability.com.au/2013/04/accessible-forms-1-labels-and-identification
/
> >
> > Accessible Forms 2: Required Fields and Extra Information | Web
Usability
> >
> >
>
http://usability.com.au/2013/05/accessible-forms-2-required-fields-and-extra
-information/
> >
> > I encourage those who are interested to continue to follow Roger's
> > blog for the remainder of the series.
> >
> > Best,
> > Jennifer
> >
> > > > > > > >
>
>
>
>--
>Dave Merrill
>>>
From: Dave Merrill
Date: Tue, May 14 2013 11:56AM
Subject: Re: series about Accessible Forms
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Thanks for that list, nice of you to put it together.
Personally, I'm aware of these techniques, just confused not to find a feed
link on the "blog" pages themselves, or anything calling it a blog (they're
"articles"), wondered if I missed something that should have been obvious.
Thanks again
Dave Merrill
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Jennifer Sutton < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >wrote:
> In case any of the hundreds of people on this list have this same
> question, when somebody sends me something from a site that I want to
> continue to track, here are the steps I'd take to do so.
>
> 1. Look for an RSS feed and subscribe to it. In this case, here it is:
>
> http://usability.com.au/feed/
>
> 2. Contact the site author to explore my options if for some reason
> RSS is not something I can use. I use RSS all the time, but maybe a
> lot of people have forgotten its value.
>
> Here's the Contact page:
>
> http://usability.com.au/contact/
>
> 3. Look up the site author, or company, on social media of
> choice. Mine is Twitter, so here's Roger on it:
>
> https://twitter.com/rogerhudson
>
> If I hadn't already known that the site is run by Roger, and I
> couldn't figure it out by the Contact page, I'd go to the About page
> to look for a name or company I could locate on social media:
>
> http://usability.com.au/about/
>
>
> I took the time to compile this list of approaches in hopes it helps
> many on the list to follow up with the resources posted here. There's
> plenty that goes on in the Web accessibility arena beyond this list.
>
> At 04:15 AM 5/14/2013, you wrote:
> >Looks great, thanks.
> >
> >Is there any way you know of subscribe to notifications of new posts
> there?
> >I didn't see one, but I probably just missed it?
> >
> >Dave Merrill
> >
> >
> >On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Jennifer Sutton < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >wrote:
> >
> > > Greetings, WebAIM:
> > >
> > > I'd like to extend public thanks and recognition to Roger Hudson, and
> > > the many others he acknowledges, for this current "in progress"
> > > series on Accessible Forms.
> > >
> > > The first two of a projected five parts have been posted. the links
> are:
> > >
> > > Accessible Forms 1 Labels and identification Web Usability
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://usability.com.au/2013/04/accessible-forms-1-labels-and-identification/
> > >
> > > Accessible Forms 2: Required Fields and Extra Information | Web
> Usability
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://usability.com.au/2013/05/accessible-forms-2-required-fields-and-extra-information/
> > >
> > > I encourage those who are interested to continue to follow Roger's
> > > blog for the remainder of the series.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Jennifer
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >Dave Merrill
> >> >> >>
> > > >
--
Dave Merrill
From: Roger Hudson
Date: Tue, May 14 2013 3:40PM
Subject: Re: series about Accessible Forms
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Many thanks Jennifer for the writing about the accessible forms articles and
for providing this information to help people subscribe and/or contact me.
And, thanks to Dave for pointing out the difficulties in subscribing.
I will make some changes in the near future, but right now I am working on
the third article.
Regards,
Roger
-----Original Message-----
From: Jennifer Sutton [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Wednesday, 15 May 2013 3:05 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] series about Accessible Forms
In case any of the hundreds of people on this list have this same question,
when somebody sends me something from a site that I want to continue to
track, here are the steps I'd take to do so.
1. Look for an RSS feed and subscribe to it. In this case, here it is:
http://usability.com.au/feed/
2. Contact the site author to explore my options if for some reason RSS is
not something I can use. I use RSS all the time, but maybe a lot of people
have forgotten its value.
Here's the Contact page:
http://usability.com.au/contact/
3. Look up the site author, or company, on social media of choice. Mine is
Twitter, so here's Roger on it:
https://twitter.com/rogerhudson
If I hadn't already known that the site is run by Roger, and I couldn't
figure it out by the Contact page, I'd go to the About page to look for a
name or company I could locate on social media:
http://usability.com.au/about/
I took the time to compile this list of approaches in hopes it helps many on
the list to follow up with the resources posted here. There's plenty that
goes on in the Web accessibility arena beyond this list.
At 04:15 AM 5/14/2013, you wrote:
>Looks great, thanks.
>
>Is there any way you know of subscribe to notifications of new posts there?
>I didn't see one, but I probably just missed it?
>
>Dave Merrill
>
>
>On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Jennifer Sutton
< = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >wrote:
>
> > Greetings, WebAIM:
> >
> > I'd like to extend public thanks and recognition to Roger Hudson,
> > and the many others he acknowledges, for this current "in progress"
> > series on Accessible Forms.
> >
> > The first two of a projected five parts have been posted. the links
are:
> >
> > Accessible Forms 1 Labels and identification Web Usability
> >
> >
> http://usability.com.au/2013/04/accessible-forms-1-labels-and-identifi
> cation/
> >
> > Accessible Forms 2: Required Fields and Extra Information | Web
> > Usability
> >
> >
> http://usability.com.au/2013/05/accessible-forms-2-required-fields-and
> -extra-information/
> >
> > I encourage those who are interested to continue to follow Roger's
> > blog for the remainder of the series.
> >
> > Best,
> > Jennifer
> >
> > > > > > list messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> >
>
>
>
>--
>Dave Merrill
>>>messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
From: Dave Merrill
Date: Wed, May 15 2013 5:27AM
Subject: Re: series about Accessible Forms
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Looking forward to the rest of the series Roger.
Just to be clear, I didn't mean to criticize your (great) site, just
thought I was confused about how things worked there.
Carry on!
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Roger Hudson < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >wrote:
> Many thanks Jennifer for the writing about the accessible forms articles
> and
> for providing this information to help people subscribe and/or contact me.
>
> And, thanks to Dave for pointing out the difficulties in subscribing.
>
> I will make some changes in the near future, but right now I am working on
> the third article.
>
> Regards,
> Roger
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jennifer Sutton [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 May 2013 3:05 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] series about Accessible Forms
>
> In case any of the hundreds of people on this list have this same question,
> when somebody sends me something from a site that I want to continue to
> track, here are the steps I'd take to do so.
>
> 1. Look for an RSS feed and subscribe to it. In this case, here it is:
>
> http://usability.com.au/feed/
>
> 2. Contact the site author to explore my options if for some reason RSS is
> not something I can use. I use RSS all the time, but maybe a lot of people
> have forgotten its value.
>
> Here's the Contact page:
>
> http://usability.com.au/contact/
>
> 3. Look up the site author, or company, on social media of choice. Mine is
> Twitter, so here's Roger on it:
>
> https://twitter.com/rogerhudson
>
> If I hadn't already known that the site is run by Roger, and I couldn't
> figure it out by the Contact page, I'd go to the About page to look for a
> name or company I could locate on social media:
>
> http://usability.com.au/about/
>
>
> I took the time to compile this list of approaches in hopes it helps many
> on
> the list to follow up with the resources posted here. There's plenty that
> goes on in the Web accessibility arena beyond this list.
>
> At 04:15 AM 5/14/2013, you wrote:
> >Looks great, thanks.
> >
> >Is there any way you know of subscribe to notifications of new posts
> there?
> >I didn't see one, but I probably just missed it?
> >
> >Dave Merrill
> >
> >
> >On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Jennifer Sutton
> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >wrote:
> >
> > > Greetings, WebAIM:
> > >
> > > I'd like to extend public thanks and recognition to Roger Hudson,
> > > and the many others he acknowledges, for this current "in progress"
> > > series on Accessible Forms.
> > >
> > > The first two of a projected five parts have been posted. the links
> are:
> > >
> > > Accessible Forms 1 Labels and identification Web Usability
> > >
> > >
> > http://usability.com.au/2013/04/accessible-forms-1-labels-and-identifi
> > cation/
> > >
> > > Accessible Forms 2: Required Fields and Extra Information | Web
> > > Usability
> > >
> > >
> > http://usability.com.au/2013/05/accessible-forms-2-required-fields-and
> > -extra-information/
> > >
> > > I encourage those who are interested to continue to follow Roger's
> > > blog for the remainder of the series.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Jennifer
> > >
> > > > > > > > > list messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >Dave Merrill
> >> >> >messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>
> > > messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>
> > > >
--
Dave Merrill
From: Sailesh Panchang
Date: Sat, May 18 2013 7:48PM
Subject: Re: series about Accessible Forms
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Roger,
For grouping fields, certainly fieldset-legend is generally the way to go.
However, using role=group / role=radiogroup works fairly too and can
be relied upon when the page design makes it challenging to use
fieldset/legend.
Both methods can be compared on the sample page linked from
http://www.deque.com/aria-group-viable-alternative-fieldset-legend
Thanks,
Sailesh Panchang
On 5/14/13, Roger Hudson < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Many thanks Jennifer for the writing about the accessible forms articles
> and
> for providing this information to help people subscribe and/or contact me.
>
> And, thanks to Dave for pointing out the difficulties in subscribing.
>
> I will make some changes in the near future, but right now I am working on
> the third article.
>
> Regards,
> Roger
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jennifer Sutton [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 May 2013 3:05 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] series about Accessible Forms
>
> In case any of the hundreds of people on this list have this same question,
> when somebody sends me something from a site that I want to continue to
> track, here are the steps I'd take to do so.
>
> 1. Look for an RSS feed and subscribe to it. In this case, here it is:
>
> http://usability.com.au/feed/
>
> 2. Contact the site author to explore my options if for some reason RSS is
> not something I can use. I use RSS all the time, but maybe a lot of people
> have forgotten its value.
>
> Here's the Contact page:
>
> http://usability.com.au/contact/
>
> 3. Look up the site author, or company, on social media of choice. Mine is
> Twitter, so here's Roger on it:
>
> https://twitter.com/rogerhudson
>
> If I hadn't already known that the site is run by Roger, and I couldn't
> figure it out by the Contact page, I'd go to the About page to look for a
> name or company I could locate on social media:
>
> http://usability.com.au/about/
>
>
> I took the time to compile this list of approaches in hopes it helps many
> on
> the list to follow up with the resources posted here. There's plenty that
> goes on in the Web accessibility arena beyond this list.
>
> At 04:15 AM 5/14/2013, you wrote:
>>Looks great, thanks.
>>
>>Is there any way you know of subscribe to notifications of new posts
>> there?
>>I didn't see one, but I probably just missed it?
>>
>>Dave Merrill
>>
>>
>>On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Jennifer Sutton
> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >wrote:
>>
>> > Greetings, WebAIM:
>> >
>> > I'd like to extend public thanks and recognition to Roger Hudson,
>> > and the many others he acknowledges, for this current "in progress"
>> > series on Accessible Forms.
>> >
>> > The first two of a projected five parts have been posted. the links
> are:
>> >
>> > Accessible Forms 1 Labels and identification Web Usability
>> >
>> >
>> http://usability.com.au/2013/04/accessible-forms-1-labels-and-identifi
>> cation/
>> >
>> > Accessible Forms 2: Required Fields and Extra Information | Web
>> > Usability
>> >
>> >
>> http://usability.com.au/2013/05/accessible-forms-2-required-fields-and
>> -extra-information/
>> >
>> > I encourage those who are interested to continue to follow Roger's
>> > blog for the remainder of the series.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Jennifer
>> >
>> > >> > >> > list messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>Dave Merrill
>>>>>>messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>
> > > messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>
> > > >
From: Roger Hudson
Date: Sat, May 18 2013 10:33PM
Subject: Re: series about Accessible Forms
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Thanks Sailesh,
I hadn't considered this and the result of your testing with NVDA and JAWS
is very interesting. Given that it relies on ARIA I wouldn't expect the
technique to be well supported by WindowEyes, and from Paul's comment it
seems that VoiceOver support is a little patchy.
Regards,
Roger
-----Original Message-----
From: Sailesh Panchang [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Sunday, 19 May 2013 11:49 AM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] series about Accessible Forms
Roger,
For grouping fields, certainly fieldset-legend is generally the way to go.
However, using role=group / role=radiogroup works fairly too and can be
relied upon when the page design makes it challenging to use
fieldset/legend.
Both methods can be compared on the sample page linked from
http://www.deque.com/aria-group-viable-alternative-fieldset-legend
Thanks,
Sailesh Panchang
On 5/14/13, Roger Hudson < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Many thanks Jennifer for the writing about the accessible forms
> articles and for providing this information to help people subscribe
> and/or contact me.
>
> And, thanks to Dave for pointing out the difficulties in subscribing.
>
> I will make some changes in the near future, but right now I am
> working on the third article.
>
> Regards,
> Roger
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jennifer Sutton [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 May 2013 3:05 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] series about Accessible Forms
>
> In case any of the hundreds of people on this list have this same
> question, when somebody sends me something from a site that I want to
> continue to track, here are the steps I'd take to do so.
>
> 1. Look for an RSS feed and subscribe to it. In this case, here it is:
>
> http://usability.com.au/feed/
>
> 2. Contact the site author to explore my options if for some reason
> RSS is not something I can use. I use RSS all the time, but maybe a
> lot of people have forgotten its value.
>
> Here's the Contact page:
>
> http://usability.com.au/contact/
>
> 3. Look up the site author, or company, on social media of choice.
> Mine is Twitter, so here's Roger on it:
>
> https://twitter.com/rogerhudson
>
> If I hadn't already known that the site is run by Roger, and I
> couldn't figure it out by the Contact page, I'd go to the About page
> to look for a name or company I could locate on social media:
>
> http://usability.com.au/about/
>
>
> I took the time to compile this list of approaches in hopes it helps
> many on the list to follow up with the resources posted here. There's
> plenty that goes on in the Web accessibility arena beyond this list.
>
> At 04:15 AM 5/14/2013, you wrote:
>>Looks great, thanks.
>>
>>Is there any way you know of subscribe to notifications of new posts
>>there?
>>I didn't see one, but I probably just missed it?
>>
>>Dave Merrill
>>
>>
>>On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Jennifer Sutton
> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >wrote:
>>
>> > Greetings, WebAIM:
>> >
>> > I'd like to extend public thanks and recognition to Roger Hudson,
>> > and the many others he acknowledges, for this current "in progress"
>> > series on Accessible Forms.
>> >
>> > The first two of a projected five parts have been posted. the
>> > links
> are:
>> >
>> > Accessible Forms 1 Labels and identification Web Usability
>> >
>> >
>> http://usability.com.au/2013/04/accessible-forms-1-labels-and-identif
>> i
>> cation/
>> >
>> > Accessible Forms 2: Required Fields and Extra Information | Web
>> > Usability
>> >
>> >
>> http://usability.com.au/2013/05/accessible-forms-2-required-fields-an
>> d
>> -extra-information/
>> >
>> > I encourage those who are interested to continue to follow Roger's
>> > blog for the remainder of the series.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Jennifer
>> >
>> > >> > >> > list messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>Dave Merrill
>>>>>>list messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>
> > > list messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>
> > > list messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>
messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
From: Sailesh Panchang
Date: Sun, May 19 2013 8:24PM
Subject: Re: series about Accessible Forms
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Roger,
There are quite a few "sufficient" HTML techniques that do not work on
iOS or even on Mac-Lion or one or other browser-At combination.
The role=group and role=radiogroup works great with
i. NVDA 2012/2013 with Firefox
ii. JAWS 14 and Google Chrome
iii. JAWS 13/14 with IE 8/9 and FF
iv. VoiceOver with Safari on Mac 10 -Lion
I thought you might wish to reference the technique I wrote about in
05/2012 in the interest of completeness.
After all it is your call.
Thanks,
Sailesh Panchang
On 5/19/13, Roger Hudson < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> Thanks Sailesh,
>
> I hadn't considered this and the result of your testing with NVDA and JAWS
> is very interesting. Given that it relies on ARIA I wouldn't expect the
> technique to be well supported by WindowEyes, and from Paul's comment it
> seems that VoiceOver support is a little patchy.
>
> Regards,
> Roger
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sailesh Panchang [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
> Sent: Sunday, 19 May 2013 11:49 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] series about Accessible Forms
>
> Roger,
> For grouping fields, certainly fieldset-legend is generally the way to go.
> However, using role=group / role=radiogroup works fairly too and can be
> relied upon when the page design makes it challenging to use
> fieldset/legend.
> Both methods can be compared on the sample page linked from
> http://www.deque.com/aria-group-viable-alternative-fieldset-legend
> Thanks,
> Sailesh Panchang
>
> On 5/14/13, Roger Hudson < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>> Many thanks Jennifer for the writing about the accessible forms
>> articles and for providing this information to help people subscribe
>> and/or contact me.
>>
>> And, thanks to Dave for pointing out the difficulties in subscribing.
>>
>> I will make some changes in the near future, but right now I am
>> working on the third article.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Roger
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jennifer Sutton [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
>> Sent: Wednesday, 15 May 2013 3:05 AM
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] series about Accessible Forms
>>
>> In case any of the hundreds of people on this list have this same
>> question, when somebody sends me something from a site that I want to
>> continue to track, here are the steps I'd take to do so.
>>
>> 1. Look for an RSS feed and subscribe to it. In this case, here it is:
>>
>> http://usability.com.au/feed/
>>
>> 2. Contact the site author to explore my options if for some reason
>> RSS is not something I can use. I use RSS all the time, but maybe a
>> lot of people have forgotten its value.
>>
>> Here's the Contact page:
>>
>> http://usability.com.au/contact/
>>
>> 3. Look up the site author, or company, on social media of choice.
>> Mine is Twitter, so here's Roger on it:
>>
>> https://twitter.com/rogerhudson
>>
>> If I hadn't already known that the site is run by Roger, and I
>> couldn't figure it out by the Contact page, I'd go to the About page
>> to look for a name or company I could locate on social media:
>>
>> http://usability.com.au/about/
>>
>>
>> I took the time to compile this list of approaches in hopes it helps
>> many on the list to follow up with the resources posted here. There's
>> plenty that goes on in the Web accessibility arena beyond this list.
>>
>> At 04:15 AM 5/14/2013, you wrote:
>>>Looks great, thanks.
>>>
>>>Is there any way you know of subscribe to notifications of new posts
>>>there?
>>>I didn't see one, but I probably just missed it?
>>>
>>>Dave Merrill
>>>
>>>
>>>On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Jennifer Sutton
>> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >wrote:
>>>
>>> > Greetings, WebAIM:
>>> >
>>> > I'd like to extend public thanks and recognition to Roger Hudson,
>>> > and the many others he acknowledges, for this current "in progress"
>>> > series on Accessible Forms.
>>> >
>>> > The first two of a projected five parts have been posted. the
>>> > links
>> are:
>>> >
>>> > Accessible Forms 1 Labels and identification Web Usability
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://usability.com.au/2013/04/accessible-forms-1-labels-and-identif
>>> i
>>> cation/
>>> >
>>> > Accessible Forms 2: Required Fields and Extra Information | Web
>>> > Usability
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://usability.com.au/2013/05/accessible-forms-2-required-fields-an
>>> d
>>> -extra-information/
>>> >
>>> > I encourage those who are interested to continue to follow Roger's
>>> > blog for the remainder of the series.
>>> >
>>> > Best,
>>> > Jennifer
>>> >
>>> > >>> > >>> > list messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Dave Merrill
>>>>>>>>>list messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>>
>> >> >> list messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>>
>> >> >> list messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>>
> > > messages to = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
>
> > > >