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From: Rachael Zubal
Date: Wed, Oct 02 2002 6:14AM
Subject: Re: Web accessibility & MS Word
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I do believe that MS Word 2000 now converts word into XML which is full of extraneous garbage. Have others had this experience? And Power Point no longer easily converts into HTML either....
Very annoying!
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Moana Jarvis wrote:
> Since lots of HTML code is added when you save a Microsoft Word
> document as a Web page, do screen readers have difficulties reading a
> Web page created by MS Word?
Not sure about Word, but PowerPoint can create HTML that is entirely
invisible to other browsers.
You might checkout:
Office 2000 HTML Filter 2.0
http://office.microsoft.com/downloads/2000/Msohtmf2.aspx
TjL
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From: Lubow Scott
Date: Wed, Oct 02 2002 6:17AM
Subject: Re: Web accessibility & MS Word
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Hi Rachael,
I have also noticed that there are several pages of extraneous information when you convert documents to web pages. I always recommend to my team to develop the old fashion way or at least go in
and clean up.
Scott
Rachael Zubal wrote:
> I do believe that MS Word 2000 now converts word into XML which is full of extraneous garbage. Have others had this experience? And Power Point no longer easily converts into HTML either....
>
> Very annoying!
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Rachael A. Zubal-Ruggieri
> Information Coordinator, Center on Human Policy
> Syracuse University
> 805 South Crouse Avenue
> Syracuse, NY 13244-2280
> 315-443-2761
> E-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> E-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> WWW: http://soeweb.syr.edu/thechp/
> ICQ #19650783
>
> "Out of the strain of Doing, into the peace of the Done."
> --Julia Louise Woodruff
>
> "I will permit no man to narrow and degrade my soul by making me hate him."
> --Booker T. Washington
>
> >>> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = 10/01/02 06:37PM >>>
> Moana Jarvis wrote:
>
> > Since lots of HTML code is added when you save a Microsoft Word
> > document as a Web page, do screen readers have difficulties reading a
> > Web page created by MS Word?
>
> Not sure about Word, but PowerPoint can create HTML that is entirely
> invisible to other browsers.
>
> You might checkout:
>
> Office 2000 HTML Filter 2.0
> http://office.microsoft.com/downloads/2000/Msohtmf2.aspx
>
> TjL
>
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From: Joel Ward
Date: Wed, Oct 02 2002 6:23AM
Subject: Re: Web accessibility & MS Word
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The Office 2000 HTML Filter 2.0 mentioned below does a good job at cleaning
out most of that garbage in Word (and supposedly Excel too). Coupled with
the Dreamweaver "Clean Word HTML" feature, you can get fairly clean HTML
documents, though you may lose some formatting in the process.
Keep in mind that you need to format the Word documents well for them to
convert to HTML well. If you don't use headings, paragraphs, etc. properly,
then it becomes much harder to get anything useful even from the HTML
Filter.
For some projects, instead of exporting the HTML from Word I've ended up
saving the file as "Text Only" and then adding the formatting back using
Dreamweaver. It was just easier, and produces very clean HTML. But I
realize that's not an option for everyone, especially non-technical folks.
I don't have any experience with Office XP, but I hear it does a better job
than 2000...
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From: "Rachael Zubal" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
To: < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: Web accessibility & MS Word
> I do believe that MS Word 2000 now converts word into XML which is full of
extraneous garbage. Have others had this experience? And Power Point no
longer easily converts into HTML either....
>
> Very annoying!
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> Rachael A. Zubal-Ruggieri
> Information Coordinator, Center on Human Policy
> Syracuse University
> 805 South Crouse Avenue
> Syracuse, NY 13244-2280
> 315-443-2761
> E-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> E-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> WWW: http://soeweb.syr.edu/thechp/
> ICQ #19650783
>
> "Out of the strain of Doing, into the peace of the Done."
> --Julia Louise Woodruff
>
>
> "I will permit no man to narrow and degrade my soul by making me hate
him."
> --Booker T. Washington
>
> >>> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = 10/01/02 06:37PM >>>
> Moana Jarvis wrote:
>
> > Since lots of HTML code is added when you save a Microsoft Word
> > document as a Web page, do screen readers have difficulties reading a
> > Web page created by MS Word?
>
> Not sure about Word, but PowerPoint can create HTML that is entirely
> invisible to other browsers.
>
> You might checkout:
>
> Office 2000 HTML Filter 2.0
> http://office.microsoft.com/downloads/2000/Msohtmf2.aspx
>
> TjL
>
>
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From: Steve Vosloo
Date: Wed, Oct 02 2002 7:23AM
Subject: RE: Web accessibility & MS Word
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The site says you need AccVerify 4.5.20 or above to run this ... Or am I
missing something?
Thanks
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: Dana Louise Simberkoff [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: 02 October 2002 03:33 PM
To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Subject: RE: Web accessibility & MS Word
Hello All-
AccVerify provides a free plug-in for Microsoft Office, that enables
Microsoft Office Users to create, verify and repair all Web documents
created with Microsoft Office for conformance with Accessibility
standards
outlined in Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act Amendments, and under
W3C
WCAG Priority 1-3 accessibility guidelines.
This solution is available for both Office XP and Office 2000. More
information is available at:
http://www.hisoftware.com/access/valueadd.html
Best Regards,
Dana Louise Simberkoff
HiSoftware Company
603-229-3055
-----Original Message-----
From: Joel Ward [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 9:16 AM
To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Subject: Re: Web accessibility & MS Word
The Office 2000 HTML Filter 2.0 mentioned below does a good job at
cleaning
out most of that garbage in Word (and supposedly Excel too). Coupled
with
the Dreamweaver "Clean Word HTML" feature, you can get fairly clean HTML
documents, though you may lose some formatting in the process.
Keep in mind that you need to format the Word documents well for them to
convert to HTML well. If you don't use headings, paragraphs, etc.
properly,
then it becomes much harder to get anything useful even from the HTML
Filter.
For some projects, instead of exporting the HTML from Word I've ended up
saving the file as "Text Only" and then adding the formatting back using
Dreamweaver. It was just easier, and produces very clean HTML. But I
realize that's not an option for everyone, especially non-technical
folks.
I don't have any experience with Office XP, but I hear it does a better
job
than 2000...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rachael Zubal" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
To: < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: Web accessibility & MS Word
> I do believe that MS Word 2000 now converts word into XML which is
full of
extraneous garbage. Have others had this experience? And Power Point
no
longer easily converts into HTML either....
>
> Very annoying!
>
>
>
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
--
> Rachael A. Zubal-Ruggieri
> Information Coordinator, Center on Human Policy
> Syracuse University
> 805 South Crouse Avenue
> Syracuse, NY 13244-2280
> 315-443-2761
> E-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> E-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> WWW: http://soeweb.syr.edu/thechp/
> ICQ #19650783
>
> "Out of the strain of Doing, into the peace of the Done."
> --Julia Louise Woodruff
>
>
> "I will permit no man to narrow and degrade my soul by making me hate
him."
> --Booker T. Washington
>
> >>> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = 10/01/02 06:37PM >>>
> Moana Jarvis wrote:
>
> > Since lots of HTML code is added when you save a Microsoft Word
> > document as a Web page, do screen readers have difficulties reading
a
> > Web page created by MS Word?
>
> Not sure about Word, but PowerPoint can create HTML that is entirely
> invisible to other browsers.
>
> You might checkout:
>
> Office 2000 HTML Filter 2.0
> http://office.microsoft.com/downloads/2000/Msohtmf2.aspx
>
> TjL
>
>
> --
> 30 Days to becoming an Opera Lover
> http://www.tntluoma.com/switch
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>
>
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From: Dana Louise Simberkoff
Date: Wed, Oct 02 2002 7:38AM
Subject: RE: Web accessibility & MS Word
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Hi Steve-
Yes, AccVerify is used to manage the accessibility testing portion of the
process and if you are using AccRepair you can also repair the document to
create the accessible HTML. The plug-in for this application to Microsoft
Office is free.
Also Office XP allows the user to save Word documents as filtered HTML, and
their is a free utility from Microsoft to do the same in Office 2000. Please
find more information about this below:
The first is to get the filter
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q291325
The second is how to use it
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q236967
Please feel free to contact me directly if I can answer any additional
questions for you.
Thanks and Best Regards,
Dana Louise Simberkoff
HiSoftware Company
603-229-3055
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Vosloo [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 10:21 AM
To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Subject: RE: Web accessibility & MS Word
The site says you need AccVerify 4.5.20 or above to run this ... Or am I
missing something?
Thanks
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: Dana Louise Simberkoff [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: 02 October 2002 03:33 PM
To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Subject: RE: Web accessibility & MS Word
Hello All-
AccVerify provides a free plug-in for Microsoft Office, that enables
Microsoft Office Users to create, verify and repair all Web documents
created with Microsoft Office for conformance with Accessibility
standards
outlined in Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act Amendments, and under
W3C
WCAG Priority 1-3 accessibility guidelines.
This solution is available for both Office XP and Office 2000. More
information is available at:
http://www.hisoftware.com/access/valueadd.html
Best Regards,
Dana Louise Simberkoff
HiSoftware Company
603-229-3055
-----Original Message-----
From: Joel Ward [mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = ]
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 9:16 AM
To: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
Subject: Re: Web accessibility & MS Word
The Office 2000 HTML Filter 2.0 mentioned below does a good job at
cleaning
out most of that garbage in Word (and supposedly Excel too). Coupled
with
the Dreamweaver "Clean Word HTML" feature, you can get fairly clean HTML
documents, though you may lose some formatting in the process.
Keep in mind that you need to format the Word documents well for them to
convert to HTML well. If you don't use headings, paragraphs, etc.
properly,
then it becomes much harder to get anything useful even from the HTML
Filter.
For some projects, instead of exporting the HTML from Word I've ended up
saving the file as "Text Only" and then adding the formatting back using
Dreamweaver. It was just easier, and produces very clean HTML. But I
realize that's not an option for everyone, especially non-technical
folks.
I don't have any experience with Office XP, but I hear it does a better
job
than 2000...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rachael Zubal" < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
To: < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: Web accessibility & MS Word
> I do believe that MS Word 2000 now converts word into XML which is
full of
extraneous garbage. Have others had this experience? And Power Point
no
longer easily converts into HTML either....
>
> Very annoying!
>
>
>
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
--
> Rachael A. Zubal-Ruggieri
> Information Coordinator, Center on Human Policy
> Syracuse University
> 805 South Crouse Avenue
> Syracuse, NY 13244-2280
> 315-443-2761
> E-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> E-mail: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED =
> WWW: http://soeweb.syr.edu/thechp/
> ICQ #19650783
>
> "Out of the strain of Doing, into the peace of the Done."
> --Julia Louise Woodruff
>
>
> "I will permit no man to narrow and degrade my soul by making me hate
him."
> --Booker T. Washington
>
> >>> = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = 10/01/02 06:37PM >>>
> Moana Jarvis wrote:
>
> > Since lots of HTML code is added when you save a Microsoft Word
> > document as a Web page, do screen readers have difficulties reading
a
> > Web page created by MS Word?
>
> Not sure about Word, but PowerPoint can create HTML that is entirely
> invisible to other browsers.
>
> You might checkout:
>
> Office 2000 HTML Filter 2.0
> http://office.microsoft.com/downloads/2000/Msohtmf2.aspx
>
> TjL
>
>
> --
> 30 Days to becoming an Opera Lover
> http://www.tntluoma.com/switch
> Day 27: Opera Community: Opera lovers unite!
> http://tntluoma.com/opera/lover/day27-community/
>
>
>
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