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From: John E. Brandt
Date: Wed, Mar 25 2020 1:34PM
Subject: Best Practice - representing time/date info
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This is directed to screen reader users and those who know more about them
than I:

In digital documents, what is the best way to represent dates and times so
they make sense to people who use screen reader technology?

Example:

When I just tested with VoiceOver (VO) the following "3:00 PM ET" - VO
stated "three zero zero p m e t"
When I tried "3-4 PM ET" = VO stated "three four p m e t"

How can we represent a specific time so it make sense?

Same issue with dates:

When I test with VO the following: "03/15/2020" - VO states "oh three slash
one five slash two thousand twenty"
When I test with VO the following" "March 15, 2020" - VO states "March
fifteenth two thousand twenty"

Is the second method preferred?

I've wondered about this for years and have never seen any guidance.

Stay safe, stay healthy

~j

John E. Brandt
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From: Murphy, Sean
Date: Wed, Mar 25 2020 4:08PM
Subject: Re: Best Practice - representing time/date info
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It depends on the screen reader. You are only using one screen reader as your example case. VoiceOver from memory does not have any specific settings for handling dates or time formats. Jaws does and I believe NVDA does. Also you need to think of country base if this is a web site. If it is a document, then using the USA format as you described is fine due to the origin of the document.

If you want to remove the dependency of date formats. Use Mar 25, 2020 and the screen reader will announce the date correctly. Time is still dependent on the screen reader. Most users I suspect will be used to how their screen reader announces dates and time.

I hope this helps.

Sean
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This is directed to screen reader users and those who know more about them than I:

In digital documents, what is the best way to represent dates and times so they make sense to people who use screen reader technology?

Example:

When I just tested with VoiceOver (VO) the following "3:00 PM ET" - VO stated "three zero zero p m e t"
When I tried "3-4 PM ET" = VO stated "three four p m e t"

How can we represent a specific time so it make sense?

Same issue with dates:

When I test with VO the following: "03/15/2020" - VO states "oh three slash one five slash two thousand twenty"
When I test with VO the following" "March 15, 2020" - VO states "March fifteenth two thousand twenty"

Is the second method preferred?

I've wondered about this for years and have never seen any guidance.

Stay safe, stay healthy

~j

John E. Brandt
jebswebs.com

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From: wolfgang.berndorfer@zweiterblick.at
Date: Thu, Mar 26 2020 4:11AM
Subject: Re: Best Practice - representing time/date info
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It also depends on the general settings for how SR or speech should announce numbers.

If I told my SR to announce each number it will have effect on telephone numbers, dates and time. Don’t know of any configuration especially for date and time. So AT developers have to be addressed.

But the question for best practice still is relevant for understanding and UX. The MM-DD-YYYY model is confusing for me as German speaking, where DD-MM-YYYY is common. So I’d prefer *March 25, 2020* to inform me about the month. 03/25/2020 may still be understandable (but don’t make me think!). 08/09/2020 already could easily be misinterpreted by somebody, who is used to understand DD-MM-YYYY.

Wolfgang

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It depends on the screen reader. You are only using one screen reader as your example case. VoiceOver from memory does not have any specific settings for handling dates or time formats. Jaws does and I believe NVDA does. Also you need to think of country base if this is a web site. If it is a document, then using the USA format as you described is fine due to the origin of the document.

If you want to remove the dependency of date formats. Use Mar 25, 2020 and the screen reader will announce the date correctly. Time is still dependent on the screen reader. Most users I suspect will be used to how their screen reader announces dates and time.

I hope this helps.

Sean
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Subject: [WebAIM] Best Practice - representing time/date info

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This is directed to screen reader users and those who know more about them than I:

In digital documents, what is the best way to represent dates and times so they make sense to people who use screen reader technology?

Example:

When I just tested with VoiceOver (VO) the following "3:00 PM ET" - VO stated "three zero zero p m e t"
When I tried "3-4 PM ET" = VO stated "three four p m e t"

How can we represent a specific time so it make sense?

Same issue with dates:

When I test with VO the following: "03/15/2020" - VO states "oh three slash one five slash two thousand twenty"
When I test with VO the following" "March 15, 2020" - VO states "March fifteenth two thousand twenty"

Is the second method preferred?

I've wondered about this for years and have never seen any guidance.

Stay safe, stay healthy

~j

John E. Brandt
jebswebs.com

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