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From: Gupta, Gaurav k
Date: Fri, Jul 24 2020 4:53AM
Subject: WCAG guideline for external stylesheet
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Hi All,

Is there WCAG guideline for external stylesheet?


Regards
Gaurav

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From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Fri, Jul 24 2020 5:15AM
Subject: Re: WCAG guideline for external stylesheet
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Nope
Inline vs. external CSS is not an accessibility requirement.

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> Is there WCAG guideline for external stylesheet?
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>
> Regards
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From: Mallory
Date: Fri, Jul 24 2020 10:13AM
Subject: Re: WCAG guideline for external stylesheet
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There is something I tend to check, however:
the text-spacing SC is only about how the content doesn't break if a user changes the text-spacing.

However in practice, on sites where JavaScript injects inline `style` attributes with text-spacing styles (word-spacing, letter-spacing, line-height and bottom margin on paragraphs) dynamically (several jQuery plugins have done this in the past), it doesn't seem possible for users to adjust the text-spacing as needed.

When I find these inline style="" attributes which specifically affect text-spacing properties, I do make a note of it for the developers.

In general, injected inline styles may prevent things like user stylesheets or browser plugins to give the desired effect, if the JavaScript on the page is making changes after browser plugins do, for example.

cheers,
Mallory

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020, at 1:15 PM, Birkir R. Gunnarsson wrote:
> Nope
> Inline vs. external CSS is not an accessibility requirement.
>
> On 7/24/20, Gupta, Gaurav k via WebAIM-Forum
> < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Is there WCAG guideline for external stylesheet?
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > Gaurav
> >
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From: Patrick H. Lauke
Date: Fri, Jul 24 2020 2:56PM
Subject: Re: WCAG guideline for external stylesheet
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On 24/07/2020 17:13, Mallory wrote:
> There is something I tend to check, however:
> the text-spacing SC is only about how the content doesn't break if a user changes the text-spacing.
>
> However in practice, on sites where JavaScript injects inline `style` attributes with text-spacing styles (word-spacing, letter-spacing, line-height and bottom margin on paragraphs) dynamically (several jQuery plugins have done this in the past), it doesn't seem possible for users to adjust the text-spacing as needed.
>
> When I find these inline style="" attributes which specifically affect text-spacing properties, I do make a note of it for the developers.
>
> In general, injected inline styles may prevent things like user stylesheets or browser plugins to give the desired effect, if the JavaScript on the page is making changes after browser plugins do, for example.

However, the SC itself doesn't mandate that it must be possible (easily
or otherwise) for users to actually change the spacing. Only that if
they *do* manage to do it, things don't break. So yes, as a best
practice, always good to note this sort of thing...but it doesn't affect
pass/fail for the text spacing SC itself.

P
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From: Mallory
Date: Sat, Jul 25 2020 1:34AM
Subject: Re: WCAG guideline for external stylesheet
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Agreed, that's exactly what I meant with "the text-spacing SC is only about how the content doesn't break if a user changes the text-spacing."

But good to keep it clear. If it were a fail of the SC, there'd be no wee little "note for the developers", but a big stinky Jira ticket :P

cheers,
_mallory

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020, at 10:56 PM, Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
> On 24/07/2020 17:13, Mallory wrote:
> > There is something I tend to check, however:
> > the text-spacing SC is only about how the content doesn't break if a user changes the text-spacing.
> >
> > However in practice, on sites where JavaScript injects inline `style` attributes with text-spacing styles (word-spacing, letter-spacing, line-height and bottom margin on paragraphs) dynamically (several jQuery plugins have done this in the past), it doesn't seem possible for users to adjust the text-spacing as needed.
> >
> > When I find these inline style="" attributes which specifically affect text-spacing properties, I do make a note of it for the developers.
> >
> > In general, injected inline styles may prevent things like user stylesheets or browser plugins to give the desired effect, if the JavaScript on the page is making changes after browser plugins do, for example.
>
> However, the SC itself doesn't mandate that it must be possible (easily
> or otherwise) for users to actually change the spacing. Only that if
> they *do* manage to do it, things don't break. So yes, as a best
> practice, always good to note this sort of thing...but it doesn't affect
> pass/fail for the text spacing SC itself.
>
> P
> --
> Patrick H. Lauke
>
> https://www.splintered.co.uk/ | https://github.com/patrickhlauke
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