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From: Moore,Michael
Date: Jun 10, 2009 1:40PM


I think that you may have found a previously unidentified (by us) feature of Adobe Live Cycle Designer. Apparently when multiple "text" boxes are used in a "row" within the design the resultant PDF does not have space characters between the elements. This seems to be resolved if you add the spaces to the text within the text boxes but we will need to do a bit more testing to be sure. We use a somewhat different design standard than the one the example provided by Jan, so we had not encountered this particular issue before.

We attempt to use the captions feature for all of the form fields when possible. In the design that was submitted we probably would have chosen to use the bottom caption element for each of the fields and made all of the "inputs" editable. But we may have more latitude to make design changes than Jan.

Mike Moore
(512) 424-4159

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At 02:10 PM 6/9/2009, Moore,Michael wrote:
>That is because those items are not really form fields. Reading line
>by line or word by word I found them understandable. The form
>appears to expect that those item will be completed with pen and
>paper, not uncommon for release forms.

I understand what you mean. I should have clarified further. All
those labels appear run together on my braille display.

("Signature of StudentDateSignificant Other*Date")

Doing a second check I found a couple other examples of this:


"FirstMiddleLast"
(This is read after the Name form fields.)

"Graphic NumberStreetCityZipcode"
(Before the address fields)

There is also the "Graphic 9" near the start of the page.

(So my experience matches Priti Rohra's findings pretty closely.


>Which version of Adobe reader are you using. We found some
>significant problems with forms with Reader 8 and JAWS 9 and 10.

I'm using Acrobat Pro 9.1.1 (& Jaws 10).

All best,
Patrick


>Mike Moore
>(512) 424-4159
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>Hmm, the only odd thing I noticed (using Jaws 10, Build 512) was that
>the labels for the signature boxes at the bottom were all read together:
>
>"Signature of StudentDateSignificant Other*Date"
>
>The main form itself behaved quite well.
>
>Patrick
>At 12:53 PM 6/9/2009, Jan Heck wrote:
> >I would really appreciate it if one or more proficient screen reader users
> >would let me know your experience with this online form:
> >http://www.coastline.edu/documents/releasestatement.pdf
> >Thanks very much!
> >Jan Heck
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>Patrick J. Burke
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>Coordinator
>UCLA Disabilities &
>Computing Program
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>Phone: 310 206-6004
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