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From: Ron Stewart
Date: Oct 25, 2010 7:30PM

You use JAWS and sorry to say what that does have to do with an accessible
interface?

As I have stated so many time before this is one of the major problems when
content creators try to use JAWS as their measure of accessibility. What you
get is a measure of JAWS accessibility which has very little to do with
actual measurements of the accessibility and the functional usability of a
given interface from an UAI level.

Each screen reader will deal with the user interface differently and if it
does not work as you expected then that is a design error not an
accessibility problem.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Carin Headrick
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 8:31 PM
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Help with Echo accessibility

But I use JAWS and can press enter on them and they work for me. So what
makes the way VO handles them different than JAWS?

On 25/10/2010 4:45 PM, Patrick Burke wrote:
> Not much to go on, but the critical code in question is apparently
> drawn in from somewhere else& does not show up with View Source. The
> whole thing is a wild festival of Javascript.
>
> The only clue I can give is that "Post"& "Cancel" are announced (by
> Jaws in Windows) as buttons. "Follow"& "Echo" (with its sublist of
> options nearby) are only reported as "clickable", but not as buttons
> or links. So it would appear that the Echo system has defined mouse
> events for these items& left out keyboard access. Device-independent
> event handlers are usually best.
>
> Patrick
>
> At 01:28 PM 10/25/2010, Carin Headrick wrote:
>> You said you also had trouble hitting reply from within a thread, right?
>>
>> I'm one of the blog authors, and I have felt helpless to help her, so
>> for now, we've been sending her comments to her manually by email. But
>> human errors do tend to happen.
>>
>> Really hopin' for some info so we can also pass it on to Echo since we
>> kinda pay for their service.
>>
>> Carin
>>
>> On 25/10/2010 11:42 AM, Ro wrote:
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> If there are any Apple users with Leopard or Snow, can I get your help
>>> with something? One of my favorite blogs uses Echo's commenting
>>> system. To follow comments, you can just click "follow", enter your
>>> email, and then you can reply to comments by email. It's really nice,
>>> but since one of the latest Safari updates, the word "follow" does
>>> nothing. I've tried using group mode in Leopard to no avail.
>>>
>>> The Echo CEO actually suggested I get a PC user to enter my email
>>> address for me. Wow. He says it works from on his Mac OS 10, which is
>>> great but he's not using Voiceover. Can someone go check it out, just
>>> arrow down until you find the comment field, keep going until you hear
>>> "follow", click it and see if you get an option to enter an email? I
>>> want to know if this is something weird with my computer alone before
>>> I respond to the Echo guy some more.
>>>
>>> If you're so inclined also, if you think you might know what the
>>> problem is and if there's a fix, that would be great too because then
>>> I could tell them.
>>>
>>> I was hoping I'd never have to bring this here, but I don't know what
>>> else to do.
>>>
>>> Here's a post to test the comments:
>>>
>>> http://vomitcomet.blogspot.com/2010/10/i-got-world-series-i-wanted.html
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance...
>>>
>>> ~Randi and Guide Dog Jayden
>>>
>>> http://raynaadi.blogspot.com/
>
> --
> Patrick J. Burke
>
> Coordinator
> UCLA Disabilities&
> Computing Program
>
> Phone: 310 206-6004
> E-mail: burke<at> ucla. edu
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