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From: Mike Moore
Date: Aug 25, 2011 11:54AM

> Mike: Can you create a form template in InDesign and have the text tagged
> properly in LiveCycle? I've found that unless I create the entire form in
> LiveCycle the text on the page is often not tagged/readable using adaptive
> technology.

I have not been able to do that successfully in LiveCycle. What we have been doing is to take the PDF from in design, open it in acrobat pro, remove the tags, add the form fields and the tool tips, retag the PDF then clean up the tag tree. We are also finding fewer problems with disappearing content if we break the documents into single pages then stitch it all together when we have everything right. The nice part about the single page at a time process is that each page gets wrapped in a single part tag which seems to improve response time in older versions of JFW. An added benefit is that you can split the work among several people.

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Mike

On Aug 25, 2011, at 11:23 AM, "Karlen Communications" < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> One problem is that if I map the Styles to the tags the document is OK but
> if I map Tags to Styles the leading is off and content floats anywhere on
> the page. I have one layer, one piece of background. ..it is not a
> complicated one page document.
>
> I'm also noticing that if I go into Story Editor after mapping things and
> generating the structure none of the Tags are there or they are literally
> tripping over each other so I have to delete them and add them manually in
> Story Editor in order to get a properly tagged PDF.
>
> I know that theoretically if you map styles to Tags you shouldn't have to
> map Tags to Styles but I've always found it necessary in order to get good
> Tags...unless this is a former bug now fixed in CS 5.5? I'm used to creating
> clean documents so this is confusing about where to focus my time in
> ensuring Styles and Tags talk nicely with each other.
>
> Am also curious about mapping Tags to Styles when you have 6 paragraph
> styles in a document. You can't choose multiple items in the list for the P
> Tag.
>
> It would be so nice if we could do all of this in the Paragraph Style dialog
> and just choose from a list of Tags to associate with the Paragraph Style!
> ...and we had an actual Tags Tree to work with, Highlight Content and other
> tools!
>
> Count me in for a LiveCycle Designer discussion group as well!
>
> Mike: Can you create a form template in InDesign and have the text tagged
> properly in LiveCycle? I've found that unless I create the entire form in
> LiveCycle the text on the page is often not tagged/readable using adaptive
> technology.
>
> Cheers, Karen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: <EMAIL REMOVED>
> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Vincent Young
> Sent: August-25-11 11:23 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Adobe InDesign to Accessible PDF discussion group
>
>> I've come across a couple of documents where a technique should work
>> but isn't in CS5.5 and wonder if the client
> is
>> missing a step or there is a formatting error..or a huge bug in InDesign.
>
> Just an FYI, the techniques I use to create accessible PDFs in InDesign
> 7.0.4 (CS5) seem to work just fine. The specific steps to re-create the
> problem would help me debug. If it is a problem, could just be CS5.5. You
> might check to see if it persists in earlier versions as well.
>
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 10:40 AM, John E Brandt < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>
>> There has been some discussion in the past about InDesign and PDF in
>> the AcrobatUsers.com group http://acrobatusers.com/
>>
>> I have not seen anything recently, but I'm betting there are people in
>> there who know.
>>
>> I'm still using (and paying for) CS5
>>
>> ~j
>>
>> John E. Brandt
>> www.jebswebs.com
>> <EMAIL REMOVED>
>> 207-622-7937
>> Augusta, Maine, USA
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: <EMAIL REMOVED>
>> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Karlen
>> Communications
>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 6:18 AM
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>> Subject: [WebAIM] Adobe InDesign to Accessible PDF discussion group
>>
>> Does anyone know if there is an Adobe InDesign discussion group that
>> focuses on creating tagged PDF from InDesign? I've come across a
>> couple of documents where a technique should work but isn't in CS5.5
>> and wonder if the client is missing a step or there is a formatting
>> error..or a huge bug in InDesign.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers, Karen
>>
>>
>>
>> Karen McCall
>>
>> Microsoft MVP for Word
>>
>>
>>
>> Karlen Communications
>>
>>