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From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Nov 7, 2011 3:24PM

Hi Sebastian

Thanks very much for the initiative and the links, I was not aware of
this project previously.
I have a problem with the first link example
"tagged-exercise-book.pdf" (first url, pdf file, pages 6 and 7,
average temperatures).
This, in fact, does not read as a table in my Adobe X reader with Jaws
13. The sample file that Andrew provided in the post prior to yours
works perfectly, but this particular table is not displayed as a table
in Jaws, and Jaws does not find any tables in this document.
I can't determine what the problem is yet, may be there is a problem
with Jaws 13 (though it found the table in the other document just
fine).
If you want to look into this, we can do it off-list, because I am
curious what is going on and if the problem is on my end or in the
document (which would be bad, seeing as it is a sample document of
best practices).
Feel free to contact me and we can test this out privately and find
out if there is an issue and what it is.
Thanks again
-Birkir


On 11/7/11, Sébastien Delorme < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> Birkir,
>
> Sorry I'm so late in answering you :s
> Andrew and Steve gave good examples.
>
> Let me add AcceDe Manuals to it.
>
> Here you can find two examples of tagged data tables :
> http://www.pdf-accessible.com/IMG/pdf/tagged-exercise-book.pdf
> (pages 6 and 7)
>
> In AcceDe PDF Manual (http://www.pdf-accessible.com/en/accede-manuals/),
> from page 57 you can find too more explanation about :
> - tagging rows, cells and headers,
> - linking the headers with their corresponding cells for “basic” data
> tables and foor “complex” data tables (cells linked to their header by
> an ID).
>
> Regards,
>
> Sébastien Delorme
> <EMAIL REMOVED>
>
> Tél. 01 45 26 77 89 / Port. 06 10 70 16 01
> Fax. 09 57 59 77 97
>
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> Le 03/11/2011 15:51, Andrew Kirkpatrick a écrit :
>> Birkir,
>> Steve beat me to it, but just to point out that the PDF6 technique
>> includes a working example.
>> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2011/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20110929/working-examples/PDF6/table-example-repaired.pdf
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> AWK
>>
>> Andrew Kirkpatrick
>> Group Product Manager, Accessibility
>> Adobe Systems
>>
>> <EMAIL REMOVED>
>> http://twitter.com/awkawk
>> http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility
>>
>>
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