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From: Kevin Chao
Date: Nov 7, 2011 4:57PM

Adobe Reader X and NVDA 2011.3 Beta 1 is able to see the two tables
and navigate them just fine. There's one issue, which is that when
navigating across/down row/column table/data, NVDA isn't speaking the
table header. Is this an issue with the PDF itself, Adobe Reader X, or
NVDA?
"tagged-exercise-book.pdf" (first url, pdf file, pages 6 and 7,
average temperatures).

Kevin

On 11/7/11, Birkir R. Gunnarsson < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> Hi Sebastian
>
> Thanks very much for the initiative and the links, I was not aware of
> this project previously.
> I have a problem with the first link example
> "tagged-exercise-book.pdf" (first url, pdf file, pages 6 and 7,
> average temperatures).
> This, in fact, does not read as a table in my Adobe X reader with Jaws
> 13. The sample file that Andrew provided in the post prior to yours
> works perfectly, but this particular table is not displayed as a table
> in Jaws, and Jaws does not find any tables in this document.
> I can't determine what the problem is yet, may be there is a problem
> with Jaws 13 (though it found the table in the other document just
> fine).
> If you want to look into this, we can do it off-list, because I am
> curious what is going on and if the problem is on my end or in the
> document (which would be bad, seeing as it is a sample document of
> best practices).
> Feel free to contact me and we can test this out privately and find
> out if there is an issue and what it is.
> Thanks again
> -Birkir
>
>
> On 11/7/11, Sébastien Delorme < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>> Birkir,
>>
>> Sorry I'm so late in answering you :s
>> Andrew and Steve gave good examples.
>>
>> Let me add AcceDe Manuals to it.
>>
>> Here you can find two examples of tagged data tables :
>> http://www.pdf-accessible.com/IMG/pdf/tagged-exercise-book.pdf
>> (pages 6 and 7)
>>
>> In AcceDe PDF Manual (http://www.pdf-accessible.com/en/accede-manuals/),
>> from page 57 you can find too more explanation about :
>> - tagging rows, cells and headers,
>> - linking the headers with their corresponding cells for “basic” data
>> tables and foor “complex” data tables (cells linked to their header by
>> an ID).
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Sébastien Delorme
>> <EMAIL REMOVED>
>>
>> Tél. 01 45 26 77 89 / Port. 06 10 70 16 01
>> Fax. 09 57 59 77 97
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Atalan
>> Accessibilité numérique et sensibilisation au handicap
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>>
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>>
>> Le 03/11/2011 15:51, Andrew Kirkpatrick a écrit :
>>> Birkir,
>>> Steve beat me to it, but just to point out that the PDF6 technique
>>> includes a working example.
>>> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2011/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20110929/working-examples/PDF6/table-example-repaired.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> AWK
>>>
>>> Andrew Kirkpatrick
>>> Group Product Manager, Accessibility
>>> Adobe Systems
>>>
>>> <EMAIL REMOVED>
>>> http://twitter.com/awkawk
>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility
>>>
>>>
>>>