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Re: A List of Form Elements?

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From: Steve Green
Date: Mar 14, 2012 1:18PM

Yes it does - even more so. Radio buttons are already semantically grouped
by means of their attributes, so adding list markup is even less appropriate
(if less than zero is possible) than it is for textboxes. <form> and
<fieldset> elements are all that is needed.

Steve

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[mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Lewis, Sunshine
T.
Sent: 14 March 2012 17:37
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] A List of Form Elements?

Does the dislike of lists for forms also apply to lists for checkboxes and
radio buttons?
<fieldset><legend>
<ul>
<li><input ></li>
<li><input ></li>
</ul>
</fieldset>

Markup seems semantically appropriate to me but I'm curious if that would
introduce the same issues?




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From: Steve Green [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 1:33 PM
To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] A List of Form Elements?

I am also totally opposed to the use of lists for forms. It's semantically
incorrect and it's an appalling user experience for screen reader users -
the additional verbiage decreases comprehensibility rather than increasing
it.

Steve Green
Managing Director
Test Partners Ltd

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[mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Jennifer Sutton
Sent: 13 March 2012 00:43
To: WebAIM Discussion List
Subject: Re: [WebAIM] A List of Form Elements?

I'm not a fan of list-items in forms, either. I've rarely seen it done and
have often argued against it. When I'm in a form, I find the indication of
list-items distracting and disorienting from the task at hand. Honestly, it
just feels semantically wrong to me.

Jennifer

At 04:18 PM 3/12/2012, you wrote:
>I'm not a fan of lists to differentiate form items. You adequately note

>the disadvantages, which I think outweigh any perceived benefits.
>In most cases, the form is navigated from form control to form control
>anyway (i.e., hitting the Tab key), so the only real advantage (that
>the number of items is identified) often doesn't occur anyway.
>
>The <div> markup could probably be simplified even more with <form
>class="aform"> <div>...<label>...<input>...</div>
></form>
>and
>.aform div { }
>to define the necessary styling.
>
>Jared Smith
>WebAIM.org
>