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Re: FW: How to include extended transcripts with video

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From: Stella Mudd
Date: May 10, 2012 12:51PM

John,

You asked what is better:

> <track kind="transcript" src="transcript">
> <track kind="captions" src="captions"> </video>

vs:

> <video src="video" transcript="transcriptLink">
> <track kind="captions" src="captions"> </video> ...blahblah...
> <a href="transcript" id="transcriptLink">click here for extended
> transcript</a>

My initial thought; looking ahead, <track kind="transcript"
src="transcript"> might be more practical.

Reasons:
1. Having a standard and convention such as this leaves little room for
problems existing between keyboard and chair.
2. Could be more SEO friendly as a standard and convention would allow
search engines to definitively crawl the document.
3. Keeps things simple and nicely organized within the VIDEO element which
allows for easy transport, DOM manipulation, etc.
4. Such a standard would be more easily defined within the HTML spec, which
would give more awareness to the possibility and benefit of adding such
content.

Of course, access to this transcript would need to be effortless by user
agents and assistive technology. This would require the community,
browsers, etc. to come up with a standard. The CC button is pretty much
universal. How would this play a part? If a transcript is added along
with caption, does the CC button become a drop-down menu? Have not put
much thought into this, but I'd be happy to get involved.

Best,
Stella



On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 2:58 PM, John Foliot < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> Hello friends,
>
> Please see the enclosed note from Chaals regarding authoring patterns for
> supporting video transcripts. Got an opinion? Be sure to "Reply All" if
> you do.
>
> Cheers!
>
> JF
>
> > From: Charles McCathieNevile [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 11:26 AM
> > To: WAI IG
> > Subject: How to include extended transcripts with video
> >
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > this is actually a question of what people would like to do. The HTML
> working
> > group is currently winding up HTML5. One of the outstanding issues is
> how to
> > include an "extended transcript" for a video. I believe the opinion of
> > practising professionals about which pattern seems more natural is
> important
> > input.
> >
> > (Basically a script for people who are just going to read it, so perhaps
> more
> > descriptive than just the captions but not necessarily timestamped.
> > It could be HTML, WebVTT mixing in the audio and descriptive audio, or it
> > could be more like an actual movie or play script).
> >
> > There are basically two proposals on the table. One is to use the track
> > element (same as for captions, subtitles, audio description, ...) and
> have the
> > browser provide access (e.g. a button added to the video player, like
> the "cc"
> > buttons that are added for captions). The HTML would look a bit like
> this:
> >
> > <video src="video">
> > <track kind="transcript" src="transcript">
> > <track kind="captions" src="captions"> </video>
> >
> > (etc.) The other idea is to build on the common practice of having a
> link to
> > the transcript somewhere on the page already. It would provide an
> attribute on
> > the video element, which would point to the link that is on the page.
> >
> > <video src="video" transcript="transcriptLink">
> > <track kind="captions" src="captions"> </video> ...blahblah...
> > <a href="transcript" id="transcriptLink">click here for extended
> > transcript</a>
> >
> > In both cases, where you have multiple languages available you just
> multiply
> > the relevant elements.
> >
> > I'd like to get people's perspective on what makes better sense and,
> > importantly, why. If this results in some reasonable amount of useful
> material
> > it will be gathered as feedback for the HTML working group.
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > Chaals
> >
> > --
> > Charles 'chaals' McCathieNevile Opera Software, Standards Group
> > je parle français -- hablo español -- jeg kan noen norsk
> > http://my.opera.com/chaals Try Opera: http://www.opera.com
>
>
> > > >