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From: Sailesh Panchang
Date: May 19, 2013 8:24PM


Roger,
There are quite a few "sufficient" HTML techniques that do not work on
iOS or even on Mac-Lion or one or other browser-At combination.
The role=group and role=radiogroup works great with
i. NVDA 2012/2013 with Firefox
ii. JAWS 14 and Google Chrome
iii. JAWS 13/14 with IE 8/9 and FF
iv. VoiceOver with Safari on Mac 10 -Lion

I thought you might wish to reference the technique I wrote about in
05/2012 in the interest of completeness.
After all it is your call.
Thanks,
Sailesh Panchang


On 5/19/13, Roger Hudson < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> Thanks Sailesh,
>
> I hadn't considered this and the result of your testing with NVDA and JAWS
> is very interesting. Given that it relies on ARIA I wouldn't expect the
> technique to be well supported by WindowEyes, and from Paul's comment it
> seems that VoiceOver support is a little patchy.
>
> Regards,
> Roger
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sailesh Panchang [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
> Sent: Sunday, 19 May 2013 11:49 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] series about Accessible Forms
>
> Roger,
> For grouping fields, certainly fieldset-legend is generally the way to go.
> However, using role=group / role=radiogroup works fairly too and can be
> relied upon when the page design makes it challenging to use
> fieldset/legend.
> Both methods can be compared on the sample page linked from
> http://www.deque.com/aria-group-viable-alternative-fieldset-legend
> Thanks,
> Sailesh Panchang
>
> On 5/14/13, Roger Hudson < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>> Many thanks Jennifer for the writing about the accessible forms
>> articles and for providing this information to help people subscribe
>> and/or contact me.
>>
>> And, thanks to Dave for pointing out the difficulties in subscribing.
>>
>> I will make some changes in the near future, but right now I am
>> working on the third article.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Roger
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jennifer Sutton [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
>> Sent: Wednesday, 15 May 2013 3:05 AM
>> To: WebAIM Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] series about Accessible Forms
>>
>> In case any of the hundreds of people on this list have this same
>> question, when somebody sends me something from a site that I want to
>> continue to track, here are the steps I'd take to do so.
>>
>> 1. Look for an RSS feed and subscribe to it. In this case, here it is:
>>
>> http://usability.com.au/feed/
>>
>> 2. Contact the site author to explore my options if for some reason
>> RSS is not something I can use. I use RSS all the time, but maybe a
>> lot of people have forgotten its value.
>>
>> Here's the Contact page:
>>
>> http://usability.com.au/contact/
>>
>> 3. Look up the site author, or company, on social media of choice.
>> Mine is Twitter, so here's Roger on it:
>>
>> https://twitter.com/rogerhudson
>>
>> If I hadn't already known that the site is run by Roger, and I
>> couldn't figure it out by the Contact page, I'd go to the About page
>> to look for a name or company I could locate on social media:
>>
>> http://usability.com.au/about/
>>
>>
>> I took the time to compile this list of approaches in hopes it helps
>> many on the list to follow up with the resources posted here. There's
>> plenty that goes on in the Web accessibility arena beyond this list.
>>
>> At 04:15 AM 5/14/2013, you wrote:
>>>Looks great, thanks.
>>>
>>>Is there any way you know of subscribe to notifications of new posts
>>>there?
>>>I didn't see one, but I probably just missed it?
>>>
>>>Dave Merrill
>>>
>>>
>>>On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Jennifer Sutton
>> < <EMAIL REMOVED> >wrote:
>>>
>>> > Greetings, WebAIM:
>>> >
>>> > I'd like to extend public thanks and recognition to Roger Hudson,
>>> > and the many others he acknowledges, for this current "in progress"
>>> > series on Accessible Forms.
>>> >
>>> > The first two of a projected five parts have been posted. the
>>> > links
>> are:
>>> >
>>> > Accessible Forms 1 Labels and identification Web Usability
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://usability.com.au/2013/04/accessible-forms-1-labels-and-identif
>>> i
>>> cation/
>>> >
>>> > Accessible Forms 2: Required Fields and Extra Information | Web
>>> > Usability
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://usability.com.au/2013/05/accessible-forms-2-required-fields-an
>>> d
>>> -extra-information/
>>> >
>>> > I encourage those who are interested to continue to follow Roger's
>>> > blog for the remainder of the series.
>>> >
>>> > Best,
>>> > Jennifer
>>> >
>>> > >>> > >>> > list messages to <EMAIL REMOVED>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Dave Merrill
>>>>>>>>>list messages to <EMAIL REMOVED>
>>
>> >> >> list messages to <EMAIL REMOVED>
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