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Re: landmarks in landmarks

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From: Steve Faulkner
Date: Dec 12, 2013 11:23AM

Hi Lucy,

you wrote:

"want to remind you that if you do mark up using both html 5 and aria on
the same
markup it will say something like navigation region nave region on witch
does become to verbos."

that should not be the case, do you have an example of a page where this
occurs (and using what browser and AT)?.

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Regards

SteveF
HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>;


On 12 December 2013 18:20, Lucy Greco < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> Actually screen readers do jump to html5 regions the same way we move to
> aria land marks. The newest version of jaws has at long last given us the
> ability to jump to a main content landmark but I have not done enough
> testing yet to see if it uses the html 5 equivalent yet. Not I want to
> remind you that if you do mark up using both html 5 and aria on the same
> markup it will say something like navigation region nave region on witch
> does become to verbos. As a user I hait seeing to many navagation regons in
> a page because they offen are not nav type elaments and it just gets far to
> confusing wqitch nave regon do I want the first the second or the bottom
> one
> or the nested one.
>
> Lucia Greco,
> Web Access Analyst
> IST-Campus Technology Services
> University of California, Berkeley
> (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: <EMAIL REMOVED>
> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Jacek Zadrozny
> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 1:05 AM
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] landmarks in landmarks
>
> Thanks so much. But I have more questions. I read an article and I think
> it's tru. But what about mixing HTML structural elements and landmarks?
> OK. So if there is an footer element of HTML5 it means that using ARIA role
> "content-info" is wrong? For me landmarks are for blind users to quickly
> navigate to navigation, main content or footer. Most of screenreaders have
> no navigation mechanism using HTML5 structural elements, but using
> landmarks. So what is good solution? Is it invalid:
> <footer aria-role="content-info">?
> Jacek
>
> W dniu 2013-12-11 17:32, Jared Smith pisze:
> > It is OK to embed landmark roles within other landmark roles. However,
> > I think it is assumed that the contentinfo landmark will contain links
> > about the site, copyright, etc. While the ARIA specification does not
> > state this, the HTML5 spec does clarify that <footer> (which maps to
> > the contentinfo role - see
> > http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2013/why-does-html-take-rolecontentinfo/)
> > should not include <nav> (which maps to the navigation role) for such
> > links.
> >
> > I also don't think of such links as "navigation" in the strictest
> > sense. I would probably drop the navigation landmark from within the
> > contentinfo landmark/footer.
> >
> > Jared
> > > > > > list messages to <EMAIL REMOVED>
>
>
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