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Re: a possible jaws bug and if it is can someone file it

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From: Birkir R. Gunnarsson
Date: Jan 8, 2014 4:07PM

Testing this with Jaws 15 and FF24, I observed the following.
Clicking expand/collapse links works consistently every time.
If a section is expanded and I refresh the page, the section
collapses. That is not a Jaws problem, it collapses also visually in
the browser.
Is this the root of the problem Lucy?
We can get to the bottom of this.
Thanks
-Birkir
Accessibility SME | Deque Systems


On 1/8/14, Bryan Garaventa < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> It works fine for me. I tested it using JAWS15 in IE 8 9 and 10 and FF, and
> it's not having any problems. I also refreshed the page, reloaded the url,
> and again that works too.
>
> Which version of JAWS, browser, and OS are you seeing this on?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: cb
> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 2:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] a possible jaws bug and if it is can someone file
> it
>
>
> Thanks for the feedback. The trigger function now includes
> preventDefault(). Unfortunately it didn't solve Lucy's problem though.
> A new version is attached in case anyone with Jaws wants to try to
> duplicate what she's experiencing.
>
> Caroline
>
> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Bryan Garaventa
> < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> > The script is missing a preventDefault() which may be contributing to
> the
> > problem. This should be added to prevent page refreshing whenever DOM
> level
> > dynamic content is rendered via a triggering element.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Lucy Greco" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> > To: "WebAIM Discussion List" < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 1:18 PM
> > Subject: Re: [WebAIM] a possible jaws bug and if it is can someone file
> it
> >
> >
> >> Great please do test and remember it works the first time you open the
> >> expand just not after that
> >>
> >> Lucia Greco
> >> Web Access Analyst
> >> IST-Campus Technology Services
> >> University of California, Berkeley
> >> (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
> >> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: <EMAIL REMOVED>
> >> [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ] On Behalf Of Birkir R.
> >> Gunnarsson
> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 1:14 PM
> >> To: WebAIM Discussion List
> >> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] a possible jaws bug and if it is can someone file
> it
> >>
> >> Lucy
> >>
> >> I am able to use Jaws reliably on this demo page I came up with with
> >> Detlev Fisher, one that is on his site at:
> >> http://www.3needs.org/en/testing/code/aria-expanded.html#
> >>
> >> I can check the demo later on, and if this is a bug I would be happy
> to
> >> help you file it. I am on the Jaws beta team, though I am not very
> active.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 1/8/14, Lucy Greco < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> >>> Sorry about that here is the demo
> >>>
> >>> Lucia Greco
> >>> Web Access Analyst
> >>> IST-Campus Technology Services
> >>> University of California, Berkeley
> >>> (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
> >>> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Lucy Greco [mailto: <EMAIL REMOVED> ]
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 12:56 PM
> >>> To: 'WebAIM Discussion List'
> >>> Subject: a possible jaws bug and if it is can someone file it
> >>>
> >>> Hello:
> >>> We would like to give users of our campus accessible templates the
> >>> ability to use an expandable and collapsible content area. Attached
> is
> >> the
> >>> demo of what we have come up with so far. It works great in NVDA
> and
> >> not
> >>> so good in jaws.
> >>> The problem we have found in jaws is that jaws only indicates the
> >>> expansion happens the first time the expand is clicked. In fact if
> you
> >>> go back to the page a second time it won't say anything ever again.
> >>> When this first happened I thought I was losing my mind but I tested
> >>> on another computer and the same thing happened. My instinct is that
> >>> jaws is the bad player in this game. Can someone else confirm this
> and
> >>> if anyone on this list is on the jaws beta team could you file this
> as
> >>> a bug. I am really getting fed up with AT that does not implement
> >> standards appropriately.
> >>> It's hard enough to get developers to code to standers and then when
> >>> the AT does not work to the standers it's even harder. My new year's
> >>> resolution is to shame AT products that don't come up to the mark
> more
> >>> grin Lucy Lucia Greco Web Access Analyst IST-Campus Technology
> >>> Services University of California, Berkeley
> >>> (510) 289-6008 skype: lucia1-greco
> >>> http://webaccess.berkeley.edu
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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