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From: Cliff Tyllick
Date: Jan 23, 2015 8:40AM

Logan, in my opinion, Pratik's approach is on target: Make "Report to XYZ Committee" a distinct style.

Subtitle might work. Whether it does depends on what the various titles are like—do they ever have subtitles of their own?

But I'll add this wrinkle: "Report to XYZ Committee" belongs in the metadata. If you can use one of the fields that Word lets you embed into the body of the document (so that editing it in either location also updates the other), all the better.

I'd have to open Word to see which field would work best, and I'm away from the computer just now. But I'm sure you can find a good candidate.

Best to you,
Cliff

Cliff Tyllick

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> On Jan 19, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Lynn Holdsworth < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>
> I'd go with Pratik's suggestion: pretty the top title up using styles,
> and still have the specific subject as the H1. One concern would be
> whether the more specific heading still makes it clear, in search
> results and such, that this is a Report to XYZ Committee.
>
>> On 19/01/2015, L Snider < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
>> Hi Logan,
>>
>> Makes it tougher, but then I would suggest doubling the info, if you can
>> (putting subject in the subject line and title). If not, then geez that is
>> a tough one. I would do title as H1 and subject as H2.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Lisa
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Trafford, Logan < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I wish it were that simple. Unfortunately due to reasons that are far too
>>> complex to attempt to explain (political more than anything), the order of
>>> appearance (of existing text) cannot change.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: <EMAIL REMOVED> [mailto:
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>>> Sent: January 19, 2015 12:36 PM
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>>> Subject: Re: [WebAIM] heading structure quandry
>>>
>>> Hello Logan,
>>>
>>> An interesting problem...How about this? I think the H1 should be unique,
>>> so how about this compromise?
>>>
>>> For the title use Report to XYZ Committee-SUBJECT It is repetitive, which
>>> is the drawback...but it gets the point across right away-for all viewers.
>>>
>>> Could you take Subject out all together?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Lisa
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>>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Trafford, Logan <
>>> <EMAIL REMOVED> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Looking for opinions. I will try to summarize the issue as succinctly
>>>> as possible.
>>>>
>>>> I'm building a Word template (for reports) that get converted to PDF
>>>> and posted to external website. Once the Word document is completed,
>>>> the author has no further control (i.e. the conversion to PDF is done
>>>> in batch mode automatically and they can't remediate the PDF after the
>>> fact).
>>>>
>>>> The natural Heading 1 of the document is the text that appears at the
>>>> top of the doc which is "Report to XYZ Committee", followed by
>>>> additional (normal text) that identifies date, who submitted it etc.
>>>> and THEN the actual subject matter of the report.
>>>>
>>>> Example:
>>>> Report to XYZ Committee
>>>> January 15, 2015
>>>> Submitted by: Jane Doe
>>>> Contact Person: Barney Fife
>>>> Ward:
>>>> File #
>>>> Subject:
>>>>
>>>> My issue is that while it is natural to style the main title (Report
>>>> to XYZ Committee) as a Heading 1 (and also enter it as the title in
>>>> the Properties of the document), there may be hundreds of these
>>>> reports converted to PDF and posted to the website on a yearly basis
>>>> that would end up having the exact same title, thus potentially having
>>>> an adverse effect on search capabilities.
>>>>
>>>> Would it make more sense to have the unique "Subject:" of the document
>>>> styled as the Heading 1 instead and the "Report to XXX Committee" as a
>>>> Heading 2. I do realize that automated checkers will fail for having
>>>> skipped heading levels, but that's not the end of the world. Or am I
>>>> simply over-thinking this and it wouldn't make much of a difference
>>>> either way (from and A11Y perspective), thus having the generic
>>>> "Report to XYZ Committee" on multiple documents being totally
>>>> acceptable.
>>>>
>>>> Appreciate any input.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Logan Trafford
>>>>
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