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From: L Snider
Date: Feb 9, 2015 7:52AM

Could they have meant an empty space between the quotes? I remember this
discussion a while back:

http://webaim.org/discussion/mail_thread?thread=5953

Cheers

Lisa

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Dona Patrick < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> Thanks Ryan
>
> I questioned them on this (using "") and they assured me that it was what
> we were supposed to do in Word. I said I thought a screen reader might say
> "quote quote" but they assured me that wasn't the case. I didn't argue
> because my colleagues were getting annoyed at my questions.
>
> Dona
>
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Ryan E. Benson < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> wrote:
>
> > Dona,
> >
> > I am guessing they really meant to say is to keep it blank. People, I
> > found would type null, or put a space into the box. They probably did ""
> > because in HTML you do alt="" to tell assistive technology to ignore it.
> I
> > am guessing that this connection was not made in that presentation. There
> > is no way to mark an image as null in MS Office products. The current
> > practice we use at work is to leave the description field empty.
> Assistive
> > tech will say "image" when encountering it, but that's all. If you do a
> > file > save as > PDF, the built in checker in Acrobat will flag it as an
> > image with no alt, so you need to tag it as an artifact. Now if you use
> > something like CommonLook Office to create the PDF, you can tell it to
> make
> > the image an artifact when you convert it. The behavior remains the same
> as
> > I mentioned above in the word doc.
> >
> > --
> > Ryan E. Benson
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > > On Feb 8, 2015, at 11:39, Dona Patrick < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Chagnon | PubCom < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> And re: the null attribute for graphics in Word...Is this even
> possible
> > to
> > >> do? Having been a Word expert since version 1 for DOS, I haven't seen
> > this
> > >> feature yet in MS Word. If I'm wrong, please let me and others know!
> > >
> > >
> > > Bevi--
> > >
> > > I went to a training for HHS/ACF employees and folks that do
> consulting
> > > work for them. The presenters (not HHS/ACF employees) said to use "" in
> > the
> > > Alt text area of the Format Picture dialog box in Word (or PowerPoint
> and
> > > probably Excel) and that when it was converted to a PDF file it would
> be
> > > ignored by screen readers. They were wrong -- I tried it and both NVDA
> > and
> > > JAWS read it as "quote quote". (Same goes for Word. It is read as
> "quote
> > > quote".)
> > >
> > > Dona
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > >