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From: Kelly Lupo
Date: Mar 29, 2016 4:21PM

Seconded - thank you much for sharing!

Secondly, I don't really speak sales/management/administration very well
(I'm just a lowly former server admin - not even a programmer! :)), so
while what you say about the project makes sense, I passed it on anyway.
Can't hurt, right?

Thank you again - that list should keep me busy in readings for a good
while. :) (And Xcode looks incredibly interesting - I'll have to try it
over the summer, when classes die down. That said, is there anything
similar for Android?)

Kelly

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Mike Barlow < <EMAIL REMOVED> > wrote:

> Thanks Mike, that's a GREAT list just as is.
> I've done a lot of ally stuff, mostly for desktop web browsers so kind of
> new to the whole mobile accessibility thing and want to learn more about
> that end of the spectrum.
>
> *Mike Barlow*
> Web Application Developer
> Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME
>
> Lancaster, Pa 17601
> Office: 732.784.3047
> Cell: 732.682.8226
> e-mail: <EMAIL REMOVED>
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Mike Bicknell < <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > Yes, I'm happy to share the resources. I'll post the info for everyone.
> > Maybe others are interested or can point out a deficiency in my research.
> > Below is what I sent to our group. If you'd prefer a Word or Pages doc
> > with headings and such, let me know.
> >
> > "Xcode Accessibility Debugger:
> >
> > This feature is a developer-facing one, but I'm including it here because
> > it's so cool. I first learned about it while listening to episode 124 of
> > John Gruber's podcast, The Talk Show
> > <http://daringfireball.net/thetalkshow/2015/06/20/ep-124>;, during which
> > Gruber and guest Guy English talk briefly about Apple's efforts in
> > supporting accessibility.
> >
> > With the new Accessibility Debugger in Xcode, developers are now able to
> > debug, in real time, problems with their app's accessibility. For
> example,
> > a developer using VoiceOver can now make sure that text labels and images
> > in their app work properly with VoiceOver. If problems are found,
> > developers can fix them right away. (A similar, but not new, feature is
> > Xcode's Accessibility Inspector, which also helps in gauging app
> > accessibility.)
> > While bugs are inevitable and beta testers valuable, the addition of the
> > accessibility debugger is huge insofar that Apple is giving developers
> > another tool with which to best support accessibility. In the grand
> > scheme, such a tool only benefits users, as more apps will be open (read:
> > accessible) to those with special needs." (Article from the iMore site:
> > http://www.imore.com/what-you-need-know-about-accessibility-ios-9)
> >
> > Note: Xcode is the IDE (Integrated Development Environment) where the
> > developers can work on their iOS apps. It kind of functions how Adobe
> > Dreamweaver operates for web development. Anyway. So, programmers can use
> > the Xcode IDE to write an iOS app using Swift or Objective C languages. I
> > recently broke this process down for one of our teachers and a student,
> > who is interested in creating apps. If you're interested I can send that
> > along too.
> >
> > For iOS developers
> >
> > * Apple resources for developers and iOS accessibility:
> > https://developer.apple.com/accessibility/ios/
> > * Apple accessibility for developers:
> > https://developer.apple.com/accessibility/
> > * Apple, more for developers:
> > https://www.apple.com/support/accessibility/developer/
> > * A blog post from 2012 on testing iOS apps for accessibility:
> >
> http://www.rosiesherry.com/2012/09/02/ios-accessibility-a-useful-guide-for-
> > testing/
> > * AppleVis (likely a bit older):
> > http://www.applevis.com/information-app-developers
> > * AppleVis for programming iOS:
> > http://www.applevis.com/guides/programming-ios
> > * TechCrunch article on the WWDC:
> >
> http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/14/wwdc-puts-accessibility-on-the-radar-for-d
> > evelopers/
> > * CSU PD for Accessible Tech (2012?):
> >
> http://teachingcommons.cdl.edu/access/resources/MobileDeveloperResources.sh
> > tml
> > * Universal Mind blog post:
> >
> http://www.universalmind.com/blog/user-experience/apps-for-everyone-part-2-
> > strategies-for-accessibility-in-ios/
> > * A course from SSB BART Group on "iOS Mobile Accessibility for
> > Developers":
> >
> http://info.ssbbartgroup.com/MobileAccessibilityCurriculum-iOSForDevelopers
> > .html
> > * W3 on Mobile Accessibility:
> > https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Mobile_Accessibility
> > * MediaWiki ­ Accessibility Guide for Developers:
> > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Accessibility_guide_for_developers
> >
> >
> > General iOS accessibility:
> >
> > Note: Look here for features you want included in your app design.
> > Accommodations for other disabilities, not just visual, are listed as
> well.
> >
> > * Apple: http://www.apple.com/accessibility/ios/
> > * Apple http://www.apple.com/ios/accessibility-tips/
> > * Apple ­ Use Accessibility Features :
> > https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204390
> > * Apple ­ What's new in iOS: http://www.apple.com/ios/whats-new/
> >
> > * Applevis
> >
> http://www.applevis.com/guides/ios-miscellaneous-voiceover/intro-ios-access
> > ibility-blind-and-low-vision-users
> > * AppleVis and iOS 9 Accessibility:
> >
> http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-assistive-technology-braille-ios-news-op
> > inion/what-s-new-and-changed-ios-9-accessibility
> > * iOS Access for All book: http://www.iosaccessbook.com
> > <http://www.iosaccessbook.com/>;/
> > * iOS 9 and Accessibility blog post:
> >
> https://www.macstories.net/stories/ios-9-and-accessibility-my-5-favorite-de
> > tails/
> > * Interactive Accessibility:
> > http://www.interactiveaccessibility.com/blog/ios-accessibility
> > * Interactive Accessibility ­ iOS & Android Screen Reader Gesture Cheat
> > sheet (very cool cheat sheets):
> >
> http://www.interactiveaccessibility.com/blog/mobile-screen-reader-gestures#
> > .VvVmZHCUmyC
> >
> > If you'd like further assistance, please let me know. I'm happy to do
> what
> > I can. And, truthfully, I'm not a coder (I have web dev experience), but
> > I'm curious about it myself.
> >
> > Mike Bicknell
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/29/16, 1:05 PM, "WebAIM-Forum on behalf of Mike Barlow"
> > < <EMAIL REMOVED> on behalf of <EMAIL REMOVED> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Mike, while I'm not in a position to be of any assistance to you in this
> > >process, I would like to get a copy of the list of "resources for
> > >developers and end-users regarding iOS accessibility" that you put
> > >together.
> > >
> > >Which brings up another point (that's probably best for another thread,
> > >but
> > >while I've go the thought here), does anyone know of a similar list for
> > >Android development?
> > >
> > >*Mike Barlow*
> > >Web Application Developer
> > >Web Accessibility/Section 508 SME
> > >
> > >Lancaster, Pa 17601
> > >Office: 732.784.3047
> > >Cell: 732.682.8226
> > >e-mail: <EMAIL REMOVED>
> > >
> > >On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Mike Bicknell <
> <EMAIL REMOVED>
> > >
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Kelly,
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for your response. We are involved with another school in
> > >>creating
> > >> the specs (an RFP or a bid) for the creation of an app. The app will
> be
> > >> used by teachers of the visually impaired, some of whom will have
> > >> disabilities including blindness, visual impairment, and
> deaf-blindness.
> > >> Essentially, we don¹t want to end up with an app that isn¹t so
> > >>accessible
> > >> and not so user-friendly.
> > >>
> > >> A non-profit would be great. I believe the final bid will be
> > >> crowd-sourced, so a private company might not want to invest a lot of
> > >>time
> > >> in talking with us. If that makes sense. (If a company (with an a11y
> and
> > >> UX focus) wants to say hello outside of this listserv, that¹s fine.
> Who
> > >> knows what will be needed in the future?)
> > >>
> > >> I did find lots of resources for developers and end-users regarding
> iOS
> > >> accessibility, which I passed on. Unfortunately, I did not find a
> > >> non-profit that guided the conversation or that hosted a listserv.
> > >>
> > >> Many thanks,
> > >> Mike
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 3/29/16, 12:13 PM, "WebAIM-Forum on behalf of Kelly Lupo"
> > >> < <EMAIL REMOVED> on behalf of
> <EMAIL REMOVED>
> > >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >I can forward this request to a friend of mine (co-owns a
> > >>website/mobile
> > >> >app development company and is working with at least one client in
> the
> > >> >accessibility field), but can I ask what you're looking to do so I
> have
> > >> >some idea of what to tell him?
> > >> >
> > >> >Kelly
> > >> >
> > >> >On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Mike Bicknell
> > >>< <EMAIL REMOVED>
> > >> >
> > >> >wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Hello -
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Does anyone know of one or more accessibility and/or a usability
> > >>groups
> > >> >> for app development? Something like WebAIM, but for apps?
> Currently,
> > >>iOS
> > >> >> app development is our focus, but groups with a broader focus would
> > >>be
> > >> >> helpful.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Thanks,
> > >> >> Mike
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Mike Bicknell
> > >> >> Digital Research and Development Coordinator
> > >> >> Washington State School for the Blind
> > >> >> Office: 360-947-3331
> > >> >> Main: 360-947-3300
> > >> >> Email: <EMAIL REMOVED>
> > >> >> WSSB Distance Learning:
> > >> >> http://www.wssb.wa.gov/Content/offcampus/DistanceLearning.asp
> > >> >> EPIQ 2016: http://quorumlanguage.com/epiq.php
> > >> >> National Distance Learning Collaborative for BVIDB (Live Binder
> > >>site):
> > >> >> http://www.livebinders.com/play/play?id22216#anchor
> > >> >>
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